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Postby Meh » Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:23 pm

I fanned the flames in another topic.
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Postby rklenseth » Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:37 pm

OOH, now a religious debate in Qullanoi. This one could get ugly. I pesonally love Quillanoi for the debate and stuff. Its the only place that usually an argument doesn't end with dragging people off to prison and violence. Hell, I don't think debates have never really ended. :lol:
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Postby Solfius » Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:42 pm

YAY!! religous crusade! PURGE THE UNCLEAN!!! quick, someone, program stake burnings!
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Postby JherodJ » Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:04 pm

Man,I wish I could have participated in this one more,oh well Jeffery demanded he get his freak on;)
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And what it wouldn't be,
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Postby grayjaket » Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:13 pm

Off the subject real quick, I have come to the conclusion that Quillanoi is a nice town with some bad people! Well, slightly insane people! And unorganization...but a nice town
I just can't stop coming back....
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Postby thingnumber2 » Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:17 pm

This is kinda getting back to the main topic, but I think the main problem with Quillanoi, is that when the people said "Democracy" everyone just thought it would be ok, without even really thinking...it's kinda a democracy, with elected leaders, and courts and things, but although it was a great IDEA it has turned into a few people ruling, with the guards, and all the people who don't care about polotics and would rather everyone just shutup, behind them...it can't change, and it won't change, until either a bunch of people try to revolt or someone takes it over...
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Postby Meh » Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:44 pm

"[to keep goverment working for it's people] there should be an armed revolution every 20 years" - Guess who said that...

How long has the goverment been there?
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Postby thingnumber2 » Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:30 am

I dunno who said that, but thats a great idea...gets me thinkin
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Postby Meh » Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:36 am

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion... We have had thirteen States independent for eleven years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half, for each State. What country before ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion?" --Thomas Jefferson to William S. Smith, 1787. ME 6:372

I didn't have it exactly right. Took forever to find it.

http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/jefferson ... ffcont.htm
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Postby grayjaket » Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:24 am

143 posts *wipes away tear* My little baby has grown
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Postby west » Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:25 am

aye...into an abomination!

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Postby rklenseth » Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:26 am

thingnumber2 wrote:This is kinda getting back to the main topic, but I think the main problem with Quillanoi, is that when the people said "Democracy" everyone just thought it would be ok, without even really thinking...it's kinda a democracy, with elected leaders, and courts and things, but although it was a great IDEA it has turned into a few people ruling, with the guards, and all the people who don't care about polotics and would rather everyone just shutup, behind them...it can't change, and it won't change, until either a bunch of people try to revolt or someone takes it over...


If your characters don't like the people in power, why don't they vote for someone else. :wink:
Lets see, the people who are currently in power have only be in power for a short compared to poast rulers of Quillanoi (except maybe Cromwell :lol: ). It can change if characters it to. I think a lot of the arguments here about the current characters in power are just the players frustrated that their characters are not in power or the government isn't what they wanted.
A lot of character who are against the current leadership and government keep saying that anew government should be form because the majority of the people don't like it. If the majority of the people didn't like it then why did the Constitution ever get voted in in the first place and those characters elected by the people to hold those positions. I also notice that it is usually a lot of young characters who come out against the government and the people in charge who no of nothing that happened in the past or how things came to be. At the same time there are a lot of older characters who want the current government and people in power but who usually stay pretty quiet about it during the arguments.
A little about Ealse is that, ironically, He doesn't want to be in any power seat. He would be content with writing for his newspaper and collecting literature and stuff for his library (which seems to always to get robbed
:( ). The reasons why he is currently in a power situation is he believes in the government, he wants further the ideal of the Quillanoi Citizens for Freedom and Safety, what happened with Cromwell (which was a major life changing experience for him), he is very good friends with Jonathan Russell, and that he is one of the most wisest and most knowledgable people in the area. He knows most of the history of Quillanoi and the surrounding regions. He has a huge collection of notes (I think the largest collection in all of Cantr and it keeps on growing). He is also a very friendly person and very liberal on many fronts (he is against capital punishment, no weapons law, etc...) though he is somewhat conservative when it comes to the economy and protecting the free market in Quillanoi that has always been since the beginning of Quillanoi. I think if he doesn't win the current election he might go back to dealing with his library and collecting more and more literature and well as writing some of it which he hasn't had time to since he has been Chair of the Council of Supervision and will not have time to if he does get elected President.

I just thought I would explain my character a little bit better since many don't seem to understand him at times.
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Postby thingnumber2 » Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:39 am

I didn't say it was because my characters are not in power, I just said that I believe the people of quillanoi didn't know what they were getting into, and are just to tired of conflict right now to get it straight, so they are just content to let all the people who care (not a bad thing at all) to do whatever they please, which is usually not for anyones benefit but their own (not that everyone is like that). an example is that although Mi Yu repeatedly asked for the people to support him, and let that lady out of jail, the only people who answered were the government and the guard, nobody who didn't have an important position somewhere said anything...
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Postby new.vogue.nightmare » Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:59 am

Yeah, he had the support of 1.5 low-ranking Cult workers if that counts towards anything :P
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Postby JherodJ » Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:00 am

Indeed the tree of liberty must be nourished from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants alike;) who said that?:P Where is the excitement in this so-called democracy?
"Nothing would be what it is,

Because everything would be what it isn't.

And contrary-wise

-what it is, it wouldn't be.

And what it wouldn't be,

it would.

You see?"

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