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Hopes and Dreams

Postby SekoETC » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:39 pm

Since we've already talked about how our characters are doing in society and lovelife, how about their hopes and dreams? This may be a bit on the edge because such things are seldom revealed in game but if we don't mention names it should be ok. Right?

I got some repeating themes that might be common for others too:


Social:
- Getting friends
- Finding somebody to love
- That the one(s) they love would feel the same
- To be reunited with lost (a) loved one(s) after death
- To meet old friends again (without dying first)
- To get rid of an annoying person / people / community
- To be able to take care of someone (children?)
- To reach a leading position
- To be respected
- To be useful
- To be famous
- To be feared
- That the world was a better place

Materialistic:
- Getting a house / room / lock for an existing house
- Getting good equipment (iron, steel)
- Getting rich (gold + other jewellery)
- Getting something special (so that neighbours would be jealous)
- Getting nice clothes

Other:
- Spiritual enlightenment
- To get revenge
- To get justice
- To have sex
- To be healthy
- To get food
- To stay alive
- To find peace in death

Some special ones that I wouldn't like to scrunch down into little pieces:

He would like to have a nice place with lots of soft furniture to lie upon, preferably with a pretty girl or two. But being inside a building should not restrict socializing. And of course lots of different food, not just potatoes - a perfect consumer. ;)

She used to have big dreams - to be trusted, given a chance to organize things and people, having children - but now shrunken down to just that the pain would stop, and that she could spend more time with the one she loves before it's too late.
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Re: Hopes and Dreams

Postby Nick » Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:37 am

SekoETC wrote:- Getting rich (gold + other jewellery)


How is that getting rich?
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Postby SekoETC » Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:53 am

Well in ooc standards it would be considered rich, and even ic you do respect those more that have diamonds and gold and such. Richness - to waste valuable resources on something that is totally useless. Though in Cantr the best sign of that would be using iron on jewellery.

I did not count how many of my characters have what of those dreams, some are universal but people do not think about them as they take them for granted. But have you ever even stopped to think about what your characters are looking for, and why? Usually everyone seems to think about getting a shield and a weapon, as good as possible, and a house with a lock - but why? Just because everyone wants that? Because the world is a dangerous place? Because they want to own things and store them behind locks and protect them with arms so that they could have more than the others? In many places there are scrap materials piling up but if someone would liberate people from the burden, they would chase him as a thief, no matter if it was sand or something. Are we just working/killing machines?
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Postby Pirog » Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:06 am

I would be careful to reveal important things in this threat...it would be very inviting for CR breaches if someone admitted to plotting against current governments etc.
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Postby Sunni Daez » Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:10 pm

I only have one charrie that has a "dream" and that is to stay with (*****) for his/her entire Cantr life. (****) is such a caing and giving cantrian ( ? )
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Postby Sparkle » Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:30 pm

1. is trying to get a bike/car. It would make his job a whole lot easier since he travels constantly.
2. Wants to make her town better. It has become stronger, but could always use just a little more work.
3. To finish every unfinished project there is if she can, everywhere before she dies (assuming she will)
4. To become a boat trader
5. Once was good, but is embarking on a new journey. He would like to become a villian.
6. To work her way up from labourer to something more important
7. To become rich by taking everything from others by boat.
8. To finish the 14000 grams of wood he is gathering for his king. It has already taken about 2 years.
9. To become apart of an important group or tribe
10. To be the greatest sweetest pirate that ever lived :twisted:
11. Be the only boat to provide iron and iron resources throughout the land.
12. Wants to find her home, but thinks she may have already found it in a few good friends :) She is started to learn that home is where the heart is.

That's it. The other 3 just do their jobs and try to be the best at it.
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Postby SekoETC » Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:44 pm

Pirog wrote:I would be careful to reveal important things in this threat...it would be very inviting for CR breaches if someone admitted to plotting against current governments etc.


I think we know that. But revealing dreams that probably also stay as dreams wouldn't hurt. For example a certain one would like to be a ruler of a whole region but subconsciously knows it could never happen. Dreams are what keep us going.
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Postby trage » Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:59 pm

SekoETC wrote:
Pirog wrote:I would be careful to reveal important things in this threat...it would be very inviting for CR breaches if someone admitted to plotting against current governments etc.


I think we know that. But revealing dreams that probably also stay as dreams wouldn't hurt. For example a certain one would like to be a ruler of a whole region but subconsciously knows it could never happen. Dreams are what keep us going.


Yes that's an interesting thing. In one of Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman's books it talks about how the gods had punished a man by letting him see into the future and taking away one of the most precious thigns to humans. Hope.
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Postby Revanael » Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:51 pm

One wants to grow the community he is part of and fight back the animals who have killed so many people he knew.
One wants to put and end to thieves once and for all. He did want to have a happy life with his girl... but he's kinda given up on her now.
One just wanted to see the world. Ah well.
One wants to make everybody work together voluntarily for the good of the town - but few of them seem to want to do anything but their own greedy things.
One was wandering the land, trading where he could. He's tried to set up regular trades, but nobody seems interested. He's also got someone trying to follow him he doesn't really want.
One was trying to run a town with no experience. She's been quiet, watching how someone she chose to help her is doing.
One seems to have devoted his life to helping his friend with whatever she wants to do. He's also trying to decide how much he likes her...
One has an unfulfilled vow to deal with, and is also stuck trying to protect his employer and friend who seems to have fallen asleep.
One's been trying to gather food for her home. She's not got a lot of aims except keeping fed.
One's in a mad rush to find somewhere safe from all the animals, while not leaving his companion behind. They also both need food desperately.
And one's a semi-innocent naive traveller looking for a place to settle. She's not quite happy most places she's been. She wants somewhere peaceful and friendly.
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Postby griogal » Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:40 pm

All my chars have the same dream...Happiness

For one it means restoring an old ruling caste
For another, it is love and fame

Yet another just wants respect, and justice

Some are just wandering around, without any concrete dreams, as their lives were broken, through the loss of their loved ones one way or another, be it treason, death or sleeping illness...

The younger are still looking to become someone....One just wants to survive on his own in one of the most hostile environments imagineable, another wants to be the greatest swordsman ever existed...
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Postby Schme » Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:17 am

1. Too attain absolute power over my home (or somewhere at least!)
2.Too build myself an army or paramilitary force to dispatch my enemies.
3.Build a huge palace/fortress for myself and my soldiers, and people high up there with me.
4.To make my dominion wealthy and powerfull and be know to the outside as a force to be dealt with

but what are the chances? Those are just fantasies.
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Postby Nixit » Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:26 am

But you know scheme...

Fantasies can become dreams...
Dreams can become goals...
And goals can become reality...
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Postby Dragonslayer4ever » Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:41 am

Goals and dreams for my characters. Hmm lets see

For someone to wake up.

To have a successful trading company and bring everyone everything they would ever need

Help people. and find happiness and love.

Secretly hoping a certain woman that took her man will drop dead. :twisted:

To bring a small town into something the world will know of. And live happily with the love of his life.

Becoming respected memebers of the area and famous.

To reach his attonment and live in peace with himself.

Thats just about what my charrys are doing and want for themselves. Some want glory and fame others want peace and love. I want say some of the other things for there might be people inclined for a CR break and kill them before it can happen.
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Postby Solfius » Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:06 pm

schme wrote:1. Too attain absolute power over my home (or somewhere at least!)
2.Too build myself an army or paramilitary force to dispatch my enemies.
3.Build a huge palace/fortress for myself and my soldiers, and people high up there with me.
4.To make my dominion wealthy and powerfull and be know to the outside as a force to be dealt with


Pretty much sums up one of my character's aims
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Postby InsaneIrony » Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:22 am

One wants her town to be run the way she likes it. She also wants to have something to do, but her specific job is not in great demand where she lives.
One wants to live in her home without being bothered by certain groups, but also wants to see the area become a bit more populated with people who recognize her as in charge.
One wants to find some way to balance all three job's she's gotten, while reviving a somewhat dying religion.
One wants to live in peace with sheep and the man she loves, to farm lazily and watch days pass and have a family someday.
One wants to become a pirate who is well known by all and well respected but not known as a pirate to her neighbors.
One wants to make a house and find more people who speak a language she understands.
One wants to make the best map she can to earn the respect of her emporer.
One wants to sail home, find a new crew, and sail back out into open waters to kill 'sea monsters' and avenge her fallen comrades.
One wants to live quietly for as long as she can before going out and starting a war.
One wants to run her family as well as she can and hopes to someday finish her encyclopedia.
One wants to finish a temple that was started in the middle of nowhere and hopes to marry.
One wants to run her business as well as she can, juggling all her responsibilities and hopes to someday retire.
One hopes to leave the group he is tied to, and live with the one he loves in a quiet place somewhere where past problems cannot come back to haunt them.
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