Yay! I can use Java script, at least a little

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Yay! I can use Java script, at least a little

Postby Appleide » Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:47 pm

I am not sure if its fully compatible, is it? If it is, then we could make things like computers, can't we?
Like make a java game, then it'd be like a gameboy, or make a word processor, that automatically make formats for notes with out typing lots...

If we link to other pages IC, and that page could be edited to place a message, and other people can also link to it using a copy of the note, then thats a capital breach right?
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Postby Oasis » Sat Jun 26, 2004 1:34 pm

It is most definitely not allowed. Doing things like that ruins it for everyone, when the ability to use any script in notes (html) ends up being taken away. *cries over the loss in titles* This is a privelege, and should not be abused by anyone. Ever.
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Postby Appleide » Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:28 pm

Are you referring to javascript or the other link thing, because the link thing was just something I thought of, then thinks " Well, if this was allowed then why wasn't telephones..." then dumps it in the brains "trash bins" but the wind keeps blowing the bin over so it keeps coming back out so I ask people for them to confirm what I was thinking...

If you were referring to javascript.. You sure we ain't allowed? Why do they put it in there?
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Postby Thomas Pickert » Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:51 pm

Javascript is not principally disallowed. If you use it to create chatrooms, or computers, or gameboys, we can disallow it, though. If you wish, we can also simply make it impossible to use. Takes me 2 minutes.

When a PD member tells you that something is not allowed, there's no need to ask something like 'Why can we do it then?'.

We generally have no interest to take everything away from players that we can. But we will not hesitate to take privileges away, if they get abused. That happened to HTML in events, and that happened recently to HTML in note titles. If you'd like to expand that to Javascript in notes, no problem.

If I get the impression that there is the tendency among some players to abuse privileges they have (like being able to use Javascript), I could take that privilege away.

But, as I said, we usually don't have a 'first strike' policy.

Since you asked gently, though, I will not assume that you had any malicious intentions. The paragraphs above were more general information about our policy concerning things that are disallowed, but which could theoretically be done. ;)
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Postby rklenseth » Sat Jun 26, 2004 3:41 pm

Why not just take away the privelege from the player rather than everyone?
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Postby Revanael » Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:19 pm

Wouldn't be possible, RKL. Well, I suppose it could be done, but I expect it would take them about 2000 times as much work as disabling it for everyone. And no, I'm not exaggerating much!
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Postby Thomas Pickert » Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:32 pm

Yes, that's exactly the reason. It's not only the neverending work that would be implied by maintaining a database of priviliges for each single player, but also the cost in terms of processor usage to check privileges for every single player and every single action they might take.

I know that you frequently complain about the fact that all players have to suffer for the deeds of only a few malicious minds, and I agree that in an ideal world only the offenders woud have to be the only ones to experience consequences. But in the real world, we're facing technical and personal limitations.

And yes, there are ways to allow some of the benefits of HTML tags without actually allowing HTML tags. We might eventually look at that, but like all things in Cantr, this takes time and is subject to the above mentioned limitations.

I hope that eases your frustration a little.
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Abusing HTML

Postby SekoETC » Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:46 pm

Thomas Pickert wrote:But we will not hesitate to take privileges away, if they get abused. That happened to HTML in events, and that happened recently to HTML in note titles.


How exactly were they abused? *Frowns.* Links to porno sites? That's all I can imagine. Please tell me, I'm not going to abuse them, I just want to know..
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Postby Appleide » Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:07 am

Sorry (for asking) :cry: then.... but I said why they put javascript in there? not why can I do that then? So yeah...
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Postby Appleide » Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:08 am

Is Mr.Oasis a PD member? I never knew that..
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Postby Thomas Pickert » Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:13 am

Appleide wrote:Sorry (for asking) :cry: then.... but I said why they put javascript in there? not why can I do that then? So yeah...

I have misread your original question. There's no need to be sorry for what you asked, but you would need to explain what you asked. Your question is unclear to me.

Who are 'they' and where is 'in there'?
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Postby Thomas Pickert » Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:14 am

Appleide wrote:Is Mr.Oasis a PD member? I never knew that..

Yes, Mrs. Oasis is. Now you know. ;)
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Postby Bran-Muffin » Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:15 am

Who are 'they' and where is 'in there'?


'They' i believe meaning staff such as yourself, jos and the rest of the staff that programs. And 'In There' means in Cantr.

I think. :D
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Postby Revanael » Sun Jun 27, 2004 9:29 am

And the answer to the question involving "them" and "there" is probably because it takes no work whatsoever to leave it there, and a little bit to remove it. If people are not going to abuse it, why waste time and resources bloacking something?
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Postby Appleide » Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:45 am

understood
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