Limestone buildings

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Limestone buildings

Postby EchoMan » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:40 pm

I think it would be neat if we could make limestone buildings. It would be great for starting communities in places without wood, stone, reed or mud.

Besides, it's a more classic (as in still existing) RL building material than most mud and reed huts. :)
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Postby Dudel » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:44 pm

You do know that limestone is VERY VERY brittle and can't be used to build things with, right?
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Postby EchoMan » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:01 pm

Dudel wrote:You do know that limestone is VERY VERY brittle and can't be used to build things with, right?

Dudel... thank you for making such an ass of yourself. :)

You always enter discussions with the Dudelistic approach (as in "I know everything, you know nothing"). It is very annoying mostly, and has made me ignore you on IRC and wish I could ignore you on here, but this time it is very funny. Bbecause you make such an ass of yourself. :)

The Pyramids of Giza are built of limestone. Historically It's the third most important construction material for stone buildings, after granite and sandstone. Now shut up and leave my threads alone.

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Postby FiziKx » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:01 pm

You know that the pyramids and many large architectural feats are made of limestone, right?

Edit: Lol, was criticizing Dudel at the same time as ^
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Postby Ice-Man » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:07 pm

Dudel wrote:You do know that limestone is VERY VERY brittle and can't be used to build things with, right?


Wrong actually. Limestone was used to build houses. And it probabbly still is.
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Postby BZR » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:11 pm

Yes it is, but this resource is not very durable. Corrosion is killing it.
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Postby EchoMan » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:16 pm

BZR wrote:Yes it is, but this resource is not very durable. Corrosion is killing it.

Yeah right, look at all those 4-5000 year old shiny and brand new mud and reed huts still cluttering the countryside wherever I go on the planet, while the pyramids really start looking a bit weatherbeaten after that time. :)

Just making a comparison to what we already have in game.
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Postby BZR » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:21 pm

pyramids really start looking a bit weatherbeaten after that time.

I'm not sure if I understood you correctly, but in most cases the limestone part of the pyramids is gone or signifacally reduced.

And I didn't say that I'm fine with the current Cantr's system of infinity 8)
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Postby EchoMan » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:35 pm

BZR wrote:
pyramids really start looking a bit weatherbeaten after that time.

I'm not sure if I understood you correctly, but in most cases the limestone part of the pyramids is gone or signifacally reduced.

And I didn't say that I'm fine with the current Cantr's system of infinity 8)

Afaik, only the chambers are made of granite, while the core of the pyramid is limestone alone. Also, the main reason for the looks the pyramids have today is believed to be that an earthquake loosened many of the casing stone blocks of the pyramid. These were later shipped to Cairo as building materials for mosques and fortresses. So, an earthquake in the 14th century, and man made vandalism is the major culprit when it comes to the deterioration of the pyramids.
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Postby Dudel » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:43 pm

FiziKx wrote:You know that the pyramids and many large architectural feats are made of limestone, right?

Edit: Lol, was criticizing Dudel at the same time as ^


In the desert, maybe!

Know where I live? A SWAMP! Know what happens to limestone and sandstone IN A SWAMP?

Although with Cantr mechanics you could built things out of seagrass if someone wanted so it don't really matter.


But again, don't matter... however in a strictly mechanical level this is rather pointless. Most materials for building go unnoticed and this seems like the players attempt to save a character or two by changing mechanics. :P
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Postby Piscator » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:07 pm

Hmm... I don't really see a need for action either. Limestone is already one of the key resorces of the game and I doubt that making it even more useful would be sensible. Especially as it's not much of a problem to get regular stone in most places.

If you need to have an in-game reason, just imagine that limestone is indeed very brittle and of a gravelly nature. After all you can gather it with a shovel.
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Postby Snake_byte » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:01 pm

EchoMan wrote:
Dudel wrote:You do know that limestone is VERY VERY brittle and can't be used to build things with, right?

The Pyramids of Giza are built of limestone. Historically It's the third most important construction material for stone buildings, after granite and sandstone.

EE, he got ya there...
Piscator wrote:If you need to have an in-game reason, just imagine that limestone is indeed very brittle and of a gravelly nature. After all you can gather it with a shovel.

Even ash can be compressed into brick...
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Postby Ruby » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:23 pm

I love how mean and condescending everyone is towards each other on these boards. :P









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Postby catpurr » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:38 pm

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You can even build buildings out of salt! (altough situated in the salt desert)


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Once we got proper deterioration implemented and
once we got proper demolition implemented

I don't see what speaks against limestone as new material, or a deal of other possible building materials. . Especially on demolition part it would be very weak an inferior to stone...
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Postby returner » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:51 am

Ruby wrote:I love how mean and condescending everyone is towards each other on these boards. :P


Bear in mind, there are initiators such as Dudel who are just annoying, young and idiotic.. and after years of annoyance, it just builds up.
Being a new member, you probably haven't noticed the history of Dudel and other initiators. If you've been here a while, you should understand it. :P DUDEL IS ANNOYING. :lol: :lol:

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