Aging wine

toon · Postby **toon** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:50 pm

Maybe you could put the wine back in the ask and let it age longer allowing it to heal more when it's done. Maybe have the same amount heal 1 percent more per year left in the cask? That way you could have wines with different ages.

BZR · Postby **BZR** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:02 pm

This suggestion would demand implementing wines as objects, which was rejected.

toon · Postby **toon** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:41 pm

Oh really? Oh well. I thought it would be cool.

Postby **Piscator** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:19 pm

Huh? Why do we need objects? Put 300g of wine in a cask, wait a few years and get 300g aged wine. The problem I see is rather that you get bonus healing power without investing actual days of work, but that seems to have not been a problem in the past. So, why not?

BZR · Postby **BZR** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:26 pm

If we had only one additional resource, then it wouldn't be a problem. But you would get only one age of wine.

Another problem is, that players would usually do aged wine, as growth of healing power would be for free.

*Wiro · Postby *Wiro » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:29 pm

Therefore it should take a lot of time.

Postby **Piscator** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:42 pm

BZR wrote:Another problem is, that players would usually do aged wine, as growth of healing power would be for free.

Exactly my concern.

To simulate aging we could add one type of wine for each year, but I don't know if the resulting clutter is worth it. I think one "aged wine" with slightly better healing properties than the regular one would be fine. It would be mostly for RP purposes.

BZR · Postby **BZR** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:06 pm

As far as I know wines which are usually aged are different than those which are drunk in year or two. Maybe we could make just another project in the cask, which would give wine from grapes juice, but, it make less wine than juice... you know "from selected grapes". And of course it would take much longer.

Gran · Postby **Gran** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:12 am

I hardly see this as for free. Properly "aged wine" takes a lot of time to become "aged". Keeping a cask unusable for that time when it could be producing more wine would be in itself an economic penalty. Opportunity cost, people.

Also, from what I know, there is no base to the idea of enhancing healing properties of the wine. Healing properties, if derived from anything, are based on the antiseptic properties of alcohol, which would hardly be enhanced with age due to possible degradation of ethanol molecules into other compounds. What changes from wines is flavour - wine becomes smoother as acids from the fresh grapes loose their effect and might suffer changes due to absorption of compounds inherent to its storage device.

Furthermore, specific wines get better with age. Generally, wines spoil with age. As a rough estimative, Kevin Zraly said that 90% of the wines made today are made to be consumed within a year or two. Good wine made by the time that Napoleon III was Emperor of the French is not a common case. In a place were all things made out of a grape are called "wine", like cantr, that means that there is 90% of chance that your wine will spoil.

If specific grapes are introduced, specific wines can be made with more certainty.

Aging wine

Aging wine

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