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Postby Dudel » Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:21 am

*Wiro wrote:
Piscator wrote:And it doesn't even explicitly mention sex. :wink:


That was the only complaint against such a message, right? :) So then it could be added somewhere I suppose.


The front page, maybe? O.o

OR perhaps the account creation page?

OR MAYBE even on the player page sent default to all new accounts?
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Postby Drael » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:08 am

Hmm, the new disclaimer is absolutely perfect.

However does it deal with the fact that some people may ask and still be exposed to explicit content? I mean harassment is still harassment in the real world regardless of whether its roleplayed, or not, unless the individual player consents to the content.

In the case of people that dont wont to RP sex, forcing such on them should be considered a breach of some rule, surely?

I mean im all cool with people RPing sex. But, I find that people do it way too much, and not so much for RP but for kicks. Also harrassment and rape occurs in game, with explicit content.

In a pen and paper RPG, one would be quite light on such details, though sex would still occur - because the RP is not anonymous, and often hidden from others. Most people in pen and paper games dont have near the sexual content of cantr. Violence aplenty, explicit torture even but rarely much full-on sex. Usually its taken to a certain level and then assumed to have occured.

Hopefully having overheard whispers may actually limit this in cantr.
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Postby Sunni Daez » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:22 am

Though writing is an artform, and I do support the arts, I still feel sex, to the extent it is used in Cantr, really has no place.
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Postby Dudel » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:24 am

Drael wrote:I mean harassment is still harassment in the real world regardless of whether its roleplayed, or not, unless the individual player consents to the content.

In the case of people that dont wont to RP sex, forcing such on them should be considered a breach of some rule, surely?


Indeed it should and there are a few people who need to learn some manners on the subject.

Personally, I'd rather remove the "troubled subject matters" all together in order to prevent issue BUT I also realize this would hurt the world as a whole.

Dudel wrote:I know Cantr ain't puppies and rainbows but some of us just don't want to deal with "that", even in game.


The problem becomes "case by case", as I've said. Some people are going to "write it out" others want it minimal and still OTHERS want NOTHING to do with the matter.

It should be a break of SOMETHING for disrespecting PLAYERS but this could get abused when others think something "obtrusive" and then you get a "certain type" of people in Cantr. Upon that final time, you've a bigger issue then the one now. I mean no more "bad things" but stuff starts to get stale, etc.

Personally I've yet to even have a character MURDERED! Of course I had one moved from his "home" because I was almost CERTAIN, regardless what I was told, that the character was doomed to a death. I reflected this IC a little too much but... whatever. (I'm not 100% on the player much either BUT that is something for another matter)

Respect is needed! There should be a respect RULE of some sort. Even when talking about "such matters" some people JUST CAN'T or WONT RP "that". Being a prick about it and claiming "CRB" or anything of the like should get the PLAYER a kick in the testies.

Dudel wrote:I know Cantr ain't puppies and rainbows but some of us just don't want to deal with "that", even in game.


...but if there IS a problem SOMEONE needs to stand up (person with the problem) and someone else step in (Cantr Staff). If there IS NOT a problem then everyone needs to shut up.

Dudel suggests a new Cantr department:

RDC

Respect and Decency Committee

or

DRD

Decency and Respect Department.
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Postby FiziKx » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:25 am

Hope this doesn't turn into any... 'suggestions'. D:
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Postby QueenofBlades » Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:55 am

:roll: Come on guys, ever heard of personal responsibility? If you've a problem with someone raping you in-game, tell them, and if they persist, report them to PD and if they continue further, ignore that character until you get back from PD they've been locked. Then just don't read what they've been saying.
Also, the issue with sex between two consenting charries? If they want to, they should be able to. If you have a real issue with it, work it in IC or OOC if you have to. As far as the new overheard whispering issue--come ON you dolts! Just don't it in public! If you think about it, that's pigheaded anyway innit? IRL if you were whispering to each other, people could still see you were taking off all of your clothes and rolling about on the ground.
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Postby BarbaricAvatar » Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:23 am

Dudel wrote:...but if there IS a problem SOMEONE needs to stand up (person with the problem) and someone else step in (Cantr Staff). If there IS NOT a problem then everyone needs to shut up.


Yep, PD doesn't sit around watching every tiny thing that everyone does. So if you have a problem then tell us about it, otherwise we won't know.
If your character is being subjected to something you're not comfortable with (excluding murder, torture and other things that are part of the usual cantr life) like sex or excessive swearing, then tell us about it and i'll sharpen my whip.
Or alternatively OOC the other player to say "please don't, i don't like that" but be careful not to turn it into an IG flame-war.
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Postby *Wiro » Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:06 am

Dismembering limbs in great detail is fine, but "fuck pussy shit cunt whore bitch I will tear every of your fucking limbs off your damn body!" is not? :S I think that if someone is not ok with gory details, but someone goes and does it anyway, you should be able to contact PD as well. And for swearing, I actually disagree. Some characters just don't give a damn about being nice, so they fuckin' tell your char that their damn shitface is not worth a fucking damn. To have them change that to "your darn poopface is not wroth a freaking darn" would seem so out of place, especially considering it is really hard to pretend like that.
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Postby Caesar » Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:35 pm

*Wiro wrote:Dismembering limbs in great detail is fine, but "fuck pussy shit cunt whore bitch I will tear every of your fucking limbs off your damn body!" is not? :S I think that if someone is not ok with gory details, but someone goes and does it anyway, you should be able to contact PD as well. And for swearing, I actually disagree. Some characters just don't give a damn about being nice, so they fuckin' tell your char that their damn shitface is not worth a fucking damn. To have them change that to "your darn poopface is not wroth a freaking darn" would seem so out of place, especially considering it is really hard to pretend like that.


You would change the behaviour of the character due to OOC reasons, which is a CRB.

Although sex (which seems to be okay in 'real life', but somehow still an issue, or other extremes could not be.
If you really do not like something you could try to put a stop to it, of course, but do not set limits for someone everywhere. It will effectively kill some characters.
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Postby playerslayer666 » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:08 pm

original post edited. my assumption was based on a couple of different conversations about this in the forums..... hopfully this DOESN'T become an issue, which is why i made the topic. in hopes of finding a solution to the problem before it becomes a problem.

i thought about it a bit last night and i came to the conclusion that perhaps the game should have an age restriction ( or age advisement ) seen as people are also likely to run into swears in the game.

by " unwanted content " i don't mean just sex scenes. sorry i can't make more of a post i'll be bac on later.
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Postby Caesar » Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:18 pm

And you think the world is a place without swearing.

Kids hear it from younger age on already, every single word they would see in the game they'd already know.

Besides.. Is it really what you care about? What you care about could just as well be your own skin.
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Postby Cdls » Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:03 pm

If the issue is so divided among individual players then why not do the following:


Upon sign up for new players, there should be a box or something that says "I do not wish to participate in any explicit sexual situations" and if that box is checked then each of those players chars are flagged as "Non sexually explicit" and somehow branded in game. They chars could be given a different color within game, or even a small description on their char page that says they are not willing to participate.


For players already registered, as well as those that may change their mind later, the similar checkbox can be placed within the "change" button found within the character screens upon login.
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Postby Arenti » Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:24 pm

Cdls wrote:If the issue is so divided among individual players then why not do the following:


Upon sign up for new players, there should be a box or something that says "I do not wish to participate in any explicit sexual situations" and if that box is checked then each of those players chars are flagged as "Non sexually explicit" and somehow branded in game. They chars could be given a different color within game, or even a small description on their char page that says they are not willing to participate.


For players already registered, as well as those that may change their mind later, the similar checkbox can be placed within the "change" button found within the character screens upon login.


I don't like that idea it might mean female chars that have the box unchecked might be raped more.
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Postby Caesar » Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:50 pm

Arenti wrote:
Cdls wrote:If the issue is so divided among individual players then why not do the following:


Upon sign up for new players, there should be a box or something that says "I do not wish to participate in any explicit sexual situations" and if that box is checked then each of those players chars are flagged as "Non sexually explicit" and somehow branded in game. They chars could be given a different color within game, or even a small description on their char page that says they are not willing to participate.


For players already registered, as well as those that may change their mind later, the similar checkbox can be placed within the "change" button found within the character screens upon login.


I don't like that idea it might mean female chars that have the box unchecked might be raped more.


It changes the behavior of characters.
And the description on a char's page is actually IC.

How would they know that the player(character?) does not want to participate in sexual activities like that? Are they psychic?
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Postby CantrFreak » Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:51 pm

Caesar wrote:And you think the world is a place without swearing.

Kids hear it from younger age on already, every single word they would see in the game they'd already know.

Besides.. Is it really what you care about? What you care about could just as well be your own skin.


I honestly agree. .-.
I see 3 year olds very often that know everything about sex and swearing.
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