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Postby wichita » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:57 am

MakeBeliever wrote:Is it a capital rule break to have a character attack another character in a group say, while also having playing a character in the group your attacking?



It is not instantly a CRB, no, but it may be grounds for initiating an investigation. This question has been addressed numerous times in the past, throughout all of Cantr's little dramas. I think I remember that some people managed to successfully play characters on both sides of the Karnon / Blackrock debacle, for instance.



MakeBeliever wrote:because thats not really odd curcumstances, you know if your going to plan an attack and choosing that story line. So therefore choosing to have characters close and mingling their lives.

Should you avoid this kind of playing when you know it will bring multiple characters together because you are gaining inside knowledge of the ones movements you are attacking?Would that be classed as unfair strategy playing and maybe avoided, or is that fair play.?



You are correct. This would be odd circumstances and it would be in a player's best interests to avoid placing themselves in such a situation. Because even if an honest player is able to keep the knowledge of each of those characters distinct and separate, playing each character with perfect fidelity, you never know when a group of players involved in similarly shady dealings is going to gossip behind the scenes and uncover the identity of your characters and start causing trouble in the grapevine, and trying to libel and smear your reputation out of character.



It's nice to see that "perfectly rational" adults with real jobs, bills, kids, etc who should be aware of all that is truly important in life and the world around us, could get so worked up over a game, meant for recreational pastime and to relieve the stress of the aforementioned jobs, bills, kids, and etc. that it would become necessary to stomp off in a melodramatic huff simply because the powers that be did not answer an ultimatum and deliver the specific desired verdict.

It's even more uplifting to see the melodramatic huffees return repeatedly to stir the pot some more. This was a very good thread until 11 posts ago. I wish you people could grow up.
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Postby the_antisocial_hermit » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:14 am

SekoETC wrote:Go on hermi, censor me.

Why would I censor you?

I agree that some need to STFU. I've been waving my hands since I first posted.

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Postby SekoETC » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:39 am

Umm... I said the f-word, twice.
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Postby MakeBeliever » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:16 am

It's nice to see that "perfectly rational" adults with real jobs, bills, kids, etc who should be aware of all that is truly important in life and the world around us, could get so worked up over a game, meant for recreational pastime and to relieve the stress of the aforementioned jobs, bills, kids, and etc.
Exactly, you come here for a game and to enjoy time away from the stress's of life, not to be met with multiple characters being used, all because some don't know any better or can't refrain from doing so even when they are in positions ment to stop that.

So i get name called for asking a question and then told to grow up with the added threat of maybe a forum ban, shame peope didn't apply the same rule force to ingame where it really matters, but at least the question was answered finally. So enough said there, thats all i posted for, so no need to jump on the defensive band wagon.
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Postby rconley » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:51 pm

So i get name called for asking a question and then told to grow up with the added threat of maybe a forum ban, shame peope didn't apply the same rule force to ingame where it really matters, but at least the question was answered finally. So enough said there, thats all i posted for, so no need to jump on the defensive band wagon.


:roll: Same rules apply for all, always have, always do as they did in the issue you keep bringing up.

Your post was meant for a lot more and it is apparent to the many many people who know what this is all about. Just like the last one and the one before...Question has been addressed, and was already answered over and over in the past both inside and outside of the forum. Seems some just aren't happy with the answer recieved. So...now the answer has been given...again. Can we move on now? This is getting very old.


It's nice to see that "perfectly rational" adults with real jobs, bills, kids, etc who should be aware of all that is truly important in life and the world around us, could get so worked up over a game, meant for recreational pastime and to relieve the stress of the aforementioned jobs, bills, kids, and etc. that it would become necessary to stomp off in a melodramatic huff simply because the powers that be did not answer an ultimatum and deliver the specific desired verdict.

It's even more uplifting to see the melodramatic huffees return repeatedly to stir the pot some more. This was a very good thread until 11 posts ago. I wish you people could grow up.


Nicely put....
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Postby the_antisocial_hermit » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:16 pm

SekoETC wrote:Umm... I said the f-word, twice.

Oh, I was too tired to notice. I also sort of use the rule of thumb of whether it is directed at someone, like calling them an effer. Then I'd censor it...

MakeBeliever wrote:So i get name called for asking a question and then told to grow up with the added threat of maybe a forum ban,

And MB, NO ONE, I repeat, NO ONE, was threatening you with a forum ban as far as I know. I certainly never mentioned it. I haven't even thought of it. Someone else insinuated that I could do it, and I stated that I COULD NOT do such a thing nor would I lock the thread at that point, so stop being silly. It's not even an issue. One of my biggest pet peeves is misrepresentation like that. I'll quote myself for good measure:

the_antisocial_hermit wrote:First off, I don't have the authority to ban anyone from the forum.


So let's stop beating a dead horse and let this damned thread get back on track. I would hate to end up having to lock it because I think it could be a valuable thread without this s***. As Randi said, it's getting old. Older and staler by the moment. I think it's starting to reek.
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Postby Cdls » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:46 pm

Image


I like dead horses....

*Attempt at humor to bring things back to perspective*


Now...realistically PD and other forms of authority are always going to be questioned, hated, verbally assaulted and so on. There are some that need someone to blame and they are a perfect target.


Then there are some *cough*No names mentioned here*cough* that cant let things go. They decide to bring up old problems simply cause they cannot accept an answer given to them. The way to deal with these people, and I use that term lightly, is to simply ignore them as if they dint exist. At least until, god forbid, they have something useful to say.


Just something to think about.
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Postby Voltenion » Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:30 pm

er...if you usually ignore them...stoping at the dead horse picture would have been a better idea...I think after this the "discussion" is going to continue....maybe I shouldn't have said this too....


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Postby saztronic » Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:50 pm

Personally, I find North Atlantic salmon superior to the Pacific breed. Not as pink, true, but flakier, quite a bit more tender.

P.T. Barnum, I'm told, once got in a shipment of white salmon. And they're, you know, not supposed to be white, so there was obviously something wrong with them. His kiosk manager said he couldn't sell them. Barnum said Nonsense, wrote up a sign that said Exotic Rare White Salmon, charged double normal price for them, and sold the lot.

I had a friend who worked as a stage manager for Barnum and Bailey's for a while. I got to go back stage at Madison Square Garden and see the elephants.

I also saw the Chase Tennis Championship at the Garden. Lindsay Davenport played Venus Williams, and Martina Hingis played someone else I forget.

Hingis got accused of using cocaine a couple years ago. Which I did once myself but never again because I thought I was going to die that day. Although it might have been the cornucopia of other illicit pharmaceuticals, I'm not sure.

Speaking of death, I'm afraid of it.

I'm also afraid of being lonely.

If I was afraid of being lonely, and I sent one of my charries to keep another one company in an otherwise deserted town, and it was just the two of them, and they didn't work together or help each other in physical ways, but just... you know, talked to each other, kept each other company, lifted each other's spirits, but no one else was around to hear or care, would it be a CRB?

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Postby Money » Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:50 pm

Your right it is :D
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Postby sanchez » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:04 am

Saztronic, when the interests of your own chars intersect, such as for survival in a lonely town, there is an intrinsic advantage you cannot RP away. Even if there are no other players' chars around, what's unfair that they gain is just as you've said - that their lives are altered by the presence of another char who only you control. You can't count on another player's char in the same way: when he sleeps, how he works, what he hunts, how he engages your char, etc.
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Postby ceselb » Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:18 am

You'd also be in a weird situation if someone came into town. How would you react then? Trust me, talking from two perspectives at once is really hard. You can get into very sticky situations that you can't foresee, so I suggest to stay well clear of it. I wouldn't even want two chars living permanently in neighboring towns, that'd be pretty weird too.
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Postby DylPickle » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:08 pm

It's not THAT hard. Take a look at every single fiction book you've read in your life. It's a little wrong to tell people they don't have the ability to do that, because I'm sure quite a few people can.

However, I can see the reasoning behind why it would and should be a CRB. I had a stupid "hi, how are you?" "not bad", rubbish "conversation" between two of my chars as they passed on a road. Every other character on my players page was gray.
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Postby SekoETC » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:11 pm

I've rp'd between my own characters a couple of times but there were other people around. I think some discussions were in private though.

The only time I've mixed up my characters was when I saw this note on the ground and somehow thought I was playing Ken, who was living nearby (like one location away). I picked up the note and edited it, using the knowledge Ken would have. Then I realized that I was in fact checking Jay who not only wasn't aware of the information I had entered, but who was also illiterate! So I edited it back and put the note down, acting confused by why I'd taken it in the first place.

Also I've had characters talk to themselves when no one was around to hear.
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Postby Voltenion » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:59 pm

I have and had lots of meeting between chars...It can get confusing but if you are focused on what you are doing you can get out of it easily...I never rp with my self only though...I know it's strange,you are in a town with two of your chars and it's completly normal for them to talk...but if I had that conversation it was totaly on my control so...I didn't have to type anything if I wanted to...I could just pretend they met and whatever would have happened really happened.
But when other people are arround I rp a bit but never at the same time
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