Animals attacking animals

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Postby Jos Elkink » Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:31 am

My plan is to simulate the ecosystem, indeed ... have animals attack other animals (or chars) for food, so that if there are many wolves, they kill all rabbits, but when they're almost done, they starve from lack of rabbits, so the rabbits can grow, and then there's enough food for the wolves, so they start eating them again ..... that's how it normally works, no? :)
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Postby formerly known as hf » Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:33 pm

yep - GCSE biology there :)
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Postby Racetyme » Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:16 pm

Yeah, but this just disturbs the established dynamic in all the new lands. I don't like it.
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Postby Doug R. » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:45 am

That is the way it works, yes, but under the current system, where rabbits reproduce like tortises instead of, well, rabbits, I think everything would just go extinct from starvation.
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Postby goitre » Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:53 am

Hmmm... I expect the levels of attack would be adjusted to a suitable level. An occasianal attack here or there - just to add a little flavour.

Perhaps this might be more suitable after animals can be domesticated.
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Postby El_Skwidd » Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:13 am

I liked the idea of betting on animal fights, and I think that could go hand-in-hand with animal domestication.

The animal ecosystem would be an OK implementation. I think there are definitely more pressing, more important suggestions (children, children, and children), but it would add more of a 'Welcome to the Jungle' flavor to the game. And who's to say that the lion about to rip you to shreds can't get randomly stomped on by an elephant?

Also, Doug R. pointed out something cool. Some of the breeding rates should be adjusted, mostly for the smaller animals. Raccoons, rabbits, and birdies are everywhere... but there are way more deer and horses in Cantr.

Unless, of course, Cantr birdies aren't RL birdies.

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Re: Animals attacking animals

Postby CyboRKg » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:39 pm

goitre wrote:Hmm... What do you guys think?

Just like animals attack people, they could attack other animals aswell. With animal products to be dropped on the ground after a kill.

Isn`t implemented yet? Strange...
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Postby MrPenguin589 » Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:36 pm

I, for one, think this is a good idea. It could keep rampant animal populations down, and would add more realism to the game. And plus, chars wouldn't have to kill to get bones and stuff, they could just pick up bones that the carnivores didn't eat. This does not mean that animals will only attack other animals, but people as well.
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Postby goitre » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:08 am

If the attacking is kept to a very low level then there shouldn't be mass extinction, while there should be the occasional pile of small bones for a newbie town to make bone knives/spears etc. Gradually the rate of attack could be increased to a desired level.

If you're really keen on preventing mass extinction, perhaps the animals can only attack when there's a herd of more then 4, or some other number.
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Postby liljdacres » Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:55 pm

You see a lion attack a man in his fiftys
You see a lion kill a rabit

That sort of thing :?: Would the remains be left on the ground, or did the lion eat it? Because if ya think about it, and lion could swallow a rabbit hole :twisted:
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Postby liljdacres » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:00 am

This could also lead to a whole new area of gambling!

A man in his fiftys says: I'll put 50grams of iron on the lion!
A woman in her thirties says: 20grams of iron on the wolf!
You see a lion kill a wolf
A man in his fiftys says: I knew it! Pay up!
You see a woman in her thirties give some iron to a man in his fiftys

That'd be soo cool! :twisted: Unlikely ... but cool
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Postby Agar » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:21 am

You see a turkey awkwardly kill an elephant.

How do the odds on the one run?
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Postby Pie » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:43 am

You know... I once made a sugestion that would make this one compleatly void. BUT DID YOU LISTEN(am I double posting? becous i seem to remember typing this once before?) NO!! YOU DIDN'T!!! and do you know what that sugestion was? IT WAS TO.... to have cycles for food... you know... an animal gets to big fore its arya, and then moves or DIES!!! and this right here^ IS A PROVEN BIOLOGICAL FACT IN THE REAL WORLD!!! BUT DID YOU EXEPT IT?!?!?!?!? NO!!!!!! YOU JUST( seriously... Dejavu...) SAW THAT IT WAS PIE WHO THE AUTHER WAS, AND YOU SAID NO COUS YOUR MEAN PEOPLE!!!!! THIS actually is exactly what jos just said... awile ago.. BUT YOU GUYS REJECTED ME!!

Ok... If you didn't read that, read the sumery. I'v alredy sugested somthing like what jos just sugested, but you are mean.
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