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Postby sanchez » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:11 am

notsure wrote:It's a project, dude. Choose it or don't.


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Postby Mykey » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:07 am

I apologise, but this variant does not approach me. Who else, what can prompt?
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Postby Phalynx » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:32 am

Keep it up Mykey and you can kill the idea on your own! :twisted:
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Postby Solfius » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:07 am

Are you suggesting NPCs Mykey?

Eitherway, I think it's a bit too complex. My preferred implementation is having a baby object until it matures into a new character, perhaps at age 10 without any limits on what they can do.

The extra 10 years of life would perhaps be an incentive, but probably not as no one seems to live long enough to die (starvation/heart attacks/ killed)
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Postby Sunni Daez » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:39 am

Phalynx wrote:Keep it up Mykey and you can kill the idea on your own! :twisted:

:lol: :lol: You go Mykey!

It's not so much the dislike for having babies in cantr...as it is a project of sex that I dislike... do not make sex manditory for babies

I think babies and bloodlines are so far down on the list of Cantr priorities.. or atleast it should be atm. that I am not worried about them being implimented soon.

Tell me... if you spawn a baby.. and it dies before it reaches 25... do the same rules hold?
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Postby Solfius » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:44 am

I think there has to be something to instigate a birth, so that partners can choose when to have children, but it needn't be an explicit sex project.

I don't think a recreational sex project adds anything to the game: that kind of sex is already achieveable with RP.

Something like a dragging project, where both people need to be helping before it's completed.

Along those lines, perhaps female characters could have a "have a baby" button, and would require a man to "help" that woman to complete the project.

Goodness knows what would happen if more than one man tried to help the same woman, as often happens with dragging.
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Postby Solfius » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:45 am

Sunni Daez wrote:Tell me... if you spawn a baby.. and it dies before it reaches 25... do the same rules hold?


I think the system is based on the amount of time since spawn, or in this case birth, so I don't think you'd have to wait until the baby would have been 25 to respawn/rebirth
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Postby Sunni Daez » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:48 am

Solfius wrote:I think there has to be something to instigate a birth, so that partners can choose when to have children, but it needn't be an explicit sex project.

I don't think a recreational sex project adds anything to the game: that kind of sex is already achieveable with RP.

Something like a dragging project, where both people need to be helping before it's completed.

Along those lines, perhaps female characters could have a "have a baby" button, and would require a man to "help" that woman to complete the project.

Goodness knows what would happen if more than one man tried to help the same woman, as often happens with dragging.


As for the first... that sounds more plausable... but this is not real life.. so why just the woman...maybe in cantr...men need to start the project..not women...

as for the second... if a third tries to join... it cancels the project...?
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Postby Phalynx » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:49 am

Solfius wrote:I think there has to be something to instigate a birth, so that partners can choose when to have children, but it needn't be an explicit sex project.
:oops:

:shock:
What an unfortunate turn of phrase....

Maybe we can have a non-xplicit one that invlolves blindfolds and blanket and a lot of fumbling! :lol:
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Postby Solfius » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:57 am

Sunni Daez wrote:As for the first... that sounds more plausable... but this is not real life.. so why just the woman...maybe in cantr...men need to start the project..not women...

as for the second... if a third tries to join... it cancels the project...?


You mean for men to be able to rape women, or for men to be able to have babies as well?

I'm a realism advocate (within reason of course) so I'd prefer only women to be capable of childbirth.

As for rape, it is distasteful, but also part of life. It ought to be possible, but not obvious, such as men being able to initate reproduction with a woman. It's not necessary for the main part of the suggestion though.
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Postby Kreed » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:55 pm

What is the motivation for this suggestion?

Its not so that people can have "sex" as that seems to be rp'd well enough already. I havent seen anyone say thay want to rp a baby, in fact most offer suggestions to get round that situation, (compressing time, npc's ect).

So I see two main reasons, one is that people can rp being parents and the other is providing a mechanism for lineage.

If you remove babys and sex and your left with some kind of underdeveloped newspawn who bears, (possibly) the genes, looks, skills and name of a local pair of characters. Course the people who want wittle babys are out of luck, but I think they should give up on the idea anyway. No-one wants npcs and no-one wants to play a baby!:roll:

As barely two people can seem to agree on any two factors involved in this its probably going to be down to Jos to decide our fates. :D
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Postby Chris Johnson » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:03 pm

From the Accepted Suggestions Thread Families, birth, pregnancies - generations

Jos Elkink wrote:To be honest, there are really no new ideas in the above ;) ... This idea has been discussed, approved, half programmed, rediscussed, yet again rediscussed, etc. etc. for years now :) ... It'll be implemented, the whole thing has been worked out already, I think you guys can stop wasting your time discussing it ;) ... (But feel free if you want to, of course :) ...)




Oh ... and I don't know ... I'm not involved in this
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Postby Kreed » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:21 pm

Thats just what I thought, is there somewhere we can read what the final sex,baby,lineage thing will look like?

edit...oh, not feeling well this morning just noticed your disclamer at the bottom.
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Postby notsure » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:06 pm

"Maybe we can have a non-xplicit one that invlolves blindfolds and blanket and a lot of fumbling! "--- Phalynx

Been there, done that. Let's go for something new.

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Postby Sunni Daez » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:12 pm

Solfius wrote:
Sunni Daez wrote:As for the first... that sounds more plausable... but this is not real life.. so why just the woman...maybe in cantr...men need to start the project..not women...

as for the second... if a third tries to join... it cancels the project...?


You mean for men to be able to rape women, or for men to be able to have babies as well?

I'm a realism advocate (within reason of course) so I'd prefer only women to be capable of childbirth.

As for rape, it is distasteful, but also part of life. It ought to be possible, but not obvious, such as men being able to initate reproduction with a woman. It's not necessary for the main part of the suggestion though.



How did you get that out of what I said... I was just implying that since this was Cantr.. and NOT real life... anything is possible...and maybe it should be the Men who have the babies...

I see that according to Jos... this is a done deal.. already planned and ready to put into effect.... so there is absolutely no point in this convo...
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