Religion

[Elros]

It shows that god has compation. God believes in justice, sodom diserved justice, but god showd compation, not that he was falliable.

If "God" has compassion, then why didn't he save the Jewish from the Egyptians and Nazis, if god had compassion, then why did he kill and made suffering towards the Egyptians?

The ways of god are beyond the thoughts of man, and who are we(the created) to question God(the creator)?

But I will give you some reasons that might make some sense.

First of all: The Egyptians held God's people in captivity and would not head the word of the Lord which he spoke thru Moses. So God began to send plagues to make them change their mind. After each plague Moses would go before Pharaoh and give him a chance to repent and let the Israelites go, but Pharoah would never do it till after the 10th plague(the death of his oldest son). So God was not unfair or uncompassionate. He was haing compassion on the israelites by freeing them and that is what had to be done to do that. If God had not done that and left the Israelites there then you would have asked why did God not save the Israelited from egypt if he was compassionate?

Secondly: You asked why God did not save the Jewish from the Nazis? Well they are still here in the wrld so appearantly he DID save them.

[Elros]

After God thru moses delivered the 10 plagues Pharoah let the Isrealites go free.

You forget though that god took away the Pharoah's free will, forcing him to face the plagues. The Pharoah had no choice in the matter, god just wanted revenge.

Read my last post. God gave Pharoah a chance after every plague to let the israelites go free but he still hardedned his heart and would not let them go. Finally he did let them go after 10 plagues. Read you bible and you will see that this is true. God NEVER has taken a mans free will away in the history of mankind.

[Talapus]

But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of Israel go.

[Chris Johnson]

He was referring to the story of Moses and the Isrealites when the Egyptians had them as slaves. The egyptians did many things like kill all the firstborn of the israelites as well as have them in involuntary servitude.

If you are going to use your holy books to make arguments please have the decency to quote what they actually say - The death of the first born was the 10th plague visited on the Egyptians -It was the egyptian first born killed by God - not the death of the Isrealites first born at the hands of the egyptians . The Egyptians were the victims here in my eyes

[Floris]

The firstborn of the egyptians killed by God: that was the plague.


The firstborn israelite killed by the egyptians: that was the law of the pharaoh and it was put into practice(according to Exodus).

The reason that Moses was put into a basket and put on the nile, cause he would have been killed otherwise.

So somehow, the Egyptians started killing the israelites firstborns first.

[Chris Johnson]

You are correct, I'm mistaken - The first & second chapter of Exodus does indeed mention the killing of all male isrealite children (not just the first born) by the pharoh

Elros - I apologise for my post then

[Elros]

You are correct, I'm mistaken - The first & second chapter of Exodus does indeed mention the killing of all male isrealite children (not just the first born) by the pharoh

Elros - I apologise for my post then

No problem.

[Elros]

But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of Israel go.

If you go back to chapter 7 it says:

" 2.Thou shalt speak all that I command thee: and Aaron thy brother shall speak unto Pharaoh, that he send the children of Israel out of his land.

3.And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt.

4.But Pharaoh shall not hearken unto you, that I may lay my hand upon Egypt, and bring forth mine armies, and my people the children of Israel, out of the land of Egypt by great judgments.

5.And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD, when I stretch forth mine hand upon Egypt, and bring out the children of Israel from among them. "

The reason God hardened his heart is written in the verses above.

[Nalaris]

That also may have been referring to the fact that these plagues (which were from the Lord) were only going to harden the Pharaoh's heart, but that's a bit of a stretch.

I don't think the Lord actually possessed Pharaoh or anything, it probably just means that in the same sense as me saying to you 'well now you've made me angry'. No one's stupid enough to believe that you used telepathic powers to force me to be angry, you simply triggered an angry reaction from me.

[Dee]

The firstborn of the egyptians killed by God: that was the plague.


The firstborn israelite killed by the egyptians: that was the law of the pharaoh and it was put into practice(according to Exodus).

The reason that Moses was put into a basket and put on the nile, cause he would have been killed otherwise.

So somehow, the Egyptians started killing the israelites firstborns first.

Oh, I get what you're talking about now... That was before Moses was born... The pharoah wanted every male born child to be killed, because he feared that someone will take his place in ruling Egypt. So, he ordered that all the males that are newlyborn to be killed.

But when Moses was born, his mother feared that he would be killed to, so she put him in a basket, and threw him in the nile river... Then the pharoah's wife saw him, and told him that she wanted to keep him... That's how I remember it.

[Dee]

*she sighs* Do you know who I miss? Xeemar.. Do you guys remember him? The guy from Pakistan? He would have told you a lot of things that I do not know or cannot remember.

Maybe I'll send him an email or something... To make him come back for the game.. He was so much fun to play with!

[Nalaris]

Pharaoh ordered only the hebrew male newborns to be killed. It was population control, because he was afraid that if they grew to numerous they would realize that they had a huge numerical over the Egyptian army and revolt.

[Elros]

Pharaoh ordered only the hebrew male newborns to be killed. It was population control, because he was afraid that if they grew to numerous they would realize that they had a huge numerical over the Egyptian army and revolt.

Yes that is correct, what is your point though?

[Pie]

AND, AND AND!!!!

It is posibal that there was a star (actually jupiter and marz lined up with another star) in the sky, the king star thing, over egipt. The same one that was over bethlahem, causing him to fear that there was someone who would overthrough him.

Proven fact, pleas look it up, it may be there somewere...

[Elros]

AND, AND AND!!!!

It is posibal that there was a star (actually jupiter and marz lined up with another star) in the sky, the king star thing, over egipt. The same one that was over bethlahem, causing him to fear that there was someone who would overthrough him.

Proven fact, pleas look it up, it may be there somewere...

What in the world are you talking about, and whose post are you reffering to???