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Colonel's arms & weapons research

Postby colonel » Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:40 pm

Okay I was bored and I took it upon myself to do some research on some different kinds of things that might be of use in Cantr. This is where I will put some of the things I think Cantr would benefit from.


Archer's thumb ring: Now this is something that I think might be very helpful in the game because of the use of bows in the game. It might be made to help the user be better with the bow. (Now I am not sure how hard this would be to program so it is just an idea.) Now these rings can be made out of many different things like; horn, ivory, bronze, silver, gold or even stone.

Aspis: This is a shield which was made out of hide. I am still looking into this one so I do not know to much about it right now. But I think it would be of some use in Cantr and a little easier to make for some of us. I am just guessing so far but some hide and a few small bones would probably be the items used to make it. From what I have read they had metal nails that held it together so I am not sure if that would be something that we would want to do for the game.

Aclys: A small javelin thrown with the aid of a strap or Amentum Or a stout mace equipped with a number of spikes which was attached to the arm of the person.

Amentum: A thong attached to the shaft of a javelin to increase the propulsion of the throw.

Bagh-nakh: An Indian weapon, not unlike the European Knuckle-duster. It's name means "Tiger's Claws" cause it had four or five steel claws riveted to a flat bar fitted with two rings to slip over the aggressor's fingers. It was never regarded as a prestigious weapon and was used mostly by thieves and murderers. (I like that part. Hee hee.)


(I will add more as I go along. I hope that some of this might help Cantr.)
Let me know what you think and maybe give me some suggestions to look up and I will see what I can find. :lol:
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Postby McManus » Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:47 pm

What does a thumb ring do for the person?

That Bagh-nakh sounds pretty cool...but I dont think we really need more lower damage weapons unless the combat system is changed to more..ah..accomadating for the lower weapons. A lower cool down time for the daggers and lighter weapons would be cool. Instead of have to wait one whole day, you could wait half a day...or something like that.
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Postby colonel » Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:03 am

Well as far as I have read, the ring helped them with shooting for distance I think. Ha ha, I am not to sure but I will look into it for you. I think that it would help Cantr by maybe helping with more power in the shots. Just an idea.
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Postby Talapus » Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:21 am

Perhaps it is similar to the mechanical release devices that are currently used by modern archers? That would be a device that holds the string so that you don't have to, and often releases by pulling a trigger. This allows the archer to pull back a larger bow then they otherwise would be able to and also causes the release to be more consistant.
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Postby rklenseth » Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:25 am

Please add them to my sticky above and I'll look into. Thanks! :D
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Re: Colonel's arms & weapons research

Postby Nick » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:35 am

Colonel wrote:Amentum: A thong attached to the shaft of a javelin to increase the propulsion of the throw.


I think I misunderstood you...
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Postby colonel » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:38 am

:shock:

I just copied it out of a book seriously.

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Postby kinvoya » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:56 am

What? My boyfriends use my thongs to increase the propulsion of their javelins all the time. :lol: :wink:
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Postby the_antisocial_hermit » Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:30 am

Ehm... :lol: There are other types of thongs, Nick... Of course, according to Kinvoya's boyfriends, apparently that kind works too... ;)
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Postby rklenseth » Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:47 am

Yes, other types of thongs indeed. Like when you say thong to an Aussie, they get a different image in their head than we Americans and Canadians. Personally, I like our image better. :wink:
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Re: Colonel's arms & weapons research

Postby Cookie » Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:23 am

Colonel wrote:Okay I was bored and I took it upon myself to do some research on some different kinds of things that might be of use in Cantr. This is where I will put some of the things I think Cantr would benefit from.

Yes right ok.

Archer's thumb ring: Now this is something that I think might be very helpful in the game because of the use of bows in the game. It might be made to help the user be better with the bow. (Now I am not sure how hard this would be to program so it is just an idea.) Now these rings can be made out of many different things like; horn, ivory, bronze, silver, gold or even stone.

And why would a ring make any difference? No I'm not being sarcy, I want to know.

Aspis: This is a shield which was made out of hide. I am still looking into this one so I do not know to much about it right now. But I think it would be of some use in Cantr and a little easier to make for some of us. I am just guessing so far but some hide and a few small bones would probably be the items used to make it. From what I have read they had metal nails that held it together so I am not sure if that would be something that we would want to do for the game.

Have one, called a buckler. Needs hide. Like a drm sorta thing.

Aclys: A small javelin thrown with the aid of a strap or Amentum Or a stout mace equipped with a number of spikes which was attached to the arm of the person.

Yes have one a them too. Atlatl.

Amentum: A thong attached to the shaft of a javelin to increase the propulsion of the throw.

Whats wrong with a sling.

Bagh-nakh: An Indian weapon, not unlike the European Knuckle-duster. It's name means "Tiger's Claws" cause it had four or five steel claws riveted to a flat bar fitted with two rings to slip over the aggressor's fingers. It was never regarded as a prestigious weapon and was used mostly by thieves and murderers. (I like that part. Hee hee.)

Yeh. We need a nuckle duster first though. ..please.
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Postby Peanut » Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:42 am

That thing you call Knuckle duster has many variations.

I'll post a list later.
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Postby Antichrist_Online » Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:09 pm

I can think of at least three variations: Katar, Brass Knuckles (standard duster) and spiked knuckles.

On the weapons the Atlatl is different from a throwing thong, its a rigid stick with a hook whereas the Aclys is a flexible throwing device.
A sling is technically a broad section of leather or cloth on two leather thongs or cords.

And the hide shield is unlike the buckler in the fact it is much larger, thinner and weaker against piercing but doesn't use as much wood for the amount of slashing protection it gives. (Blunt protection is the same.)

The thumb ring allows a bow to be drawn longer by preventing the bowstring cutting into the thumb by increasing the surface area incontact with the string. This can allow it to be drawn further and the archer take longer when aiming.
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Postby rklenseth » Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:09 pm

You can also go more modern with the thumb ring and have a shooting glove, finger tab, or mechanical release which all the same thing as a ancient thumb ring.

I'm a tab shooter myself. A tab and glove can simply be made out of leather.

There is one problem in that there isn't any programming that we could benefit from by adding these types of accessories yet.
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Postby Cookie » Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:20 pm

Antichrist_Online wrote:I can think of at least three variations: Katar, Brass Knuckles (standard duster) and spiked knuckles.


The British Army invented a knuckle duster which could be used so the triger finger could detatch when you needed to fire your gun. (a bit pointless in Cantr, but still a bit of miscelany for ya)

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