Project Having sex

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Postby Schme » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:04 pm

No, it's an annoying American thing.

The big fifties thing, screwing under the bleachers.

Not that it wasn't done here, I'm guessing. It's just I should think we picked it up from them, and not the other way around (not many people pick stuff up from us, with the exception of the Chinese and Japanese, although I've no idea why.)
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Postby Missy » Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:21 am

Screwing under the bleachers?

You people really watch too much tv. Honestly.
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Postby glitterdown » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:42 am

Honestly, I think the "having sex" project is also a terrible idea. First, it works to destory an existing RP aspect, turning something that some people find empassioned into something cold and mechanical. Second, I find the whole idea of RP sex in a game with minors distasteful; especially one where you cannot tell who is of age and who is not. As others have mentioned, not everyone shares the same morals, and I'm hardly a repressed individual, but the idea of having cyber-sex with someone who's underage is just gross, and frankly illegal at least in the country I live in (which is hardly the most conservative one in the world, as hard as we seem to be trying lately).

Lastly, of more concern to me at least than the worry of wandering into the middle of two people scrumping (which frankly IS realistic) is the fact that so many people insist on scrumping in public using whispers. If you're doing something with your characters that everyone could see, MAKE it public. If it's something that needs to be private, GO INSIDE! And if you're some public figure or police official who needs to stay outside all the time to pick up people's recently finished projects and keep criminals from getting away, DON'T HAVE SEX.
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Postby SekoETC » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:47 am

Ok, so everybody hates it. Now I still think it's the most simple, realistic yet player-friendly way of implementing the idea. But apparently people don't want it to be implemented in any way. Case closed.

If procreation ever gets added, it will happen without sex, probably very much like spawning exept that newspawns have limited skills and they have to rely on adults. And maybe one or two adults are defined as parents, even though logically there shouldn't be a programmed in "ownership" of children either.

If I ever make my own game, it will apparently have an age limit of 18 to avoid this kind of trouble. I'm just wondering how to stop it from turning into a cyber central.
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Postby Nick » Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:55 pm

SekoETC wrote: I'm just wondering how to stop it from turning into a cyber central.


Don't let people cyber at all, or it will be 'that' type of site.
Do I need to explain how big the sex industry is on the internet? Come on now...
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Postby SekoETC » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:37 pm

I'm simply sick of it that people don't understand that between cybering and total banning of sex there's a level of sexual roleplaying that's not dirty or embarrassing. It's just like nude paintings are art and not pornography in the sense of being meant to arouse. Sex can be a beautiful thing. I'm really sad for all the people who think it's just a clinical action of inserting sperm into a woman, trying to fertilize an egg.

People seem to think all Web sex can be reduced into something zit-faced nerds do because they can't get any in real life. Though I once was that kind of a hated and bullied misfit, these days I'm pretty sure I'd have no trouble seducing, I won't say anybody but several options in real life. The only troubles are to avoid getting abused or becoming an abuser yourself and turning cold and emotionless.
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Postby Nick » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:43 pm

It disturbs me how defensive some people are of Cantr sex.
It's not needed. If you want to do something like that, I'm sure you will not have a hard time finding it on the internet.
But Cantr is unique. I don't want it to turn into something smutty, which it is already going down that road.
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Postby kinvoya » Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:22 pm

If Cantr is supposed to be a society simulator...well, most societies have sexual activity going on.

I'm not a big advocate of sex in Cantr but I believe Cantrians are shaped like humans and have sexual organs even though they don't procreate yet. I also think they can experience sexual pleasure although they don't have such the driving urge that rl people do.

I feel that sex in Cantr is an important bonding experience for couples sometimes and I don't mind that people do it in whispers in public. I don't actually see it that much anymore anyway (although my chars do tend to avoid the big cities so that may be a factor). I don't think of them as having sex right in front of everyone. I figure they are behind rocks or trees or in the shadows or something. In rl people have sex in semi-public a lot more than others realize. If Cantr were more realistic, chars woud be building simple shelters of hide to get some privacy. It's not their fault that the game mechanics won't let them do this.

I'm against the sex project because I just don't see the need for it and it seems kind of icky and mechanical. Even if it existed I would never use it unless it had a real purpose like procreation.
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Postby PRUT » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:11 pm

I also do think that sex project is a good idea.

1) It's interesting :)

2) It's natural part of life, even virtual one.

I agree that someone may feel ofended by watching sex project or even talking about. I know there are many differences between cultures but...
I think it's what this game is about.

CREATING A SOCIETY

Some societies may threat sex as illegal action, some don't (like with violence)
By the way - violence is something bad in every culture but it has its place in Cantr - why? In my opinion violence is much worse that sex

Why are you affraid of sex? Are you planning to make CANTR an international flat game with no taste? It's hard to find in culture something which is the same everywhere, so why don't give up?

Let's make Cantr the world of different societies, with different cultures and habits and sex may be the one of the differences.


for the end...
Does anybody played for example the game of Sims.
Simply rp computer game of living.
There is a sex option despite this game is for children - nobody feel that is immoral or illegal and nobody threat this as a pornography

sorry for my bad english ;-)
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Postby Nixit » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:13 pm

Sex is fine in Cantr, it just shouldn't be a project until it has some actual value. A project would seem a little mechanical.
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Postby Nick » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:28 pm

Do any of you realise that character's default clothing description was changed from "he is naked and in his twenties" to "he is in his twenties and wears nothing worth mentioning", because the former was too offensive? Yet we're allowing sex? What... the... ????
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Postby Nixit » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:37 pm

Um... no I don't realize that, must've been an old change.
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Postby Floyd » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:42 pm

People still refer to it as Nakedness though.

I allways wondered what the oint of making a loin cloth is... when you think about it, surely a loincloth is equal to "Nothing worth mentioning"?
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Postby PRUT » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:49 pm

"Be naked" is offensive?

"to wear nothing worth mentioning" is quite different information than "be naked".

If we search more, maybe we will find someone who feels that "eating" is offensive and better is "consuming" - no this is bad example :) - maybe "transforming food".

Lets say words what are mean. Naked is naked.
Even Adam and Eve was naked in Paradise - not "worn nothing worth mentioning"


I begin to worry about this game...
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Postby Black Canyon » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:56 pm

Don't give up! :lol: Some of us are relatively normal. Kind of.

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