BRONZE: The Iron Alternative

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BRONZE: The Iron Alternative

Postby TheTheorist » Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:20 pm

Please please please, there should be an alternative to Iron!!

Smelting Furnace

Manufacturing Bronze (Coal)

In one day you can produce 100 grams of bronze. You will need the following raw materials:
10 grams of tin
60 grams of coal
100 grams of copper


Manufacturing Bronze (Gas)

In one day you can produce 100 grams of bronze. You will need the following raw materials:
10 grams of tin
20 grams of propane
100 grams of copper

Should be on the primitive furnace too, but more wasteful, as with Iron!

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Object: Bronze shield

Days needed: 4
Raw materials needed: 300 grams of bronze

Objects:
Tools needed: hammer

SAME STATS AS IRON SHIELD

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Object: Bronze Dagger

Days needed: 2
Raw materials needed: 100 grams of bronze

Objects:
Tools needed: hammer




Or weapons could be made via a cast made from clay.

Eg

Object: Gladius Cast

Days needed: 5
Raw materials needed: 600 grams of clay

Objects:
Tools needed: hammer, chisel

and

Object: Bronze Gladius

Days needed: 2
Raw materials needed: 200 grams of bronze

Objects:
Tools needed: gladius cast



I haven't done as much research into this as I could but hopefully this should spark some interest!!!
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Postby formerly known as hf » Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:26 pm

*nods in agreement*
With iron taking so much to get hold of... It'd be good to have another option...
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Postby Lumin » Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:39 pm

I agree that Bronze or even copper weapons should be available, but:

SAME STATS AS IRON SHIELD
just ain't gonna happen.
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Postby Where are all the monkeys » Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:14 pm

I agree, there should be bronxe, but, I also agree that a bronze sheild would should be weaker. Iron is better than bronze, thats why the iron age followed the bronze age. Also, if you could produce bronze easier, but with the same results, the game would totally unbalance.
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Postby SekoETC » Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:17 pm

Before it wasn't added because even though bronze blades are as sharp as ordinary ones, they detoriate faster than iron. Well now we have detoriation so the programmers can't use that as an excuse anymore.
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Postby julie2 » Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:01 am

WHAT??? If they deteriorate faster, they won't be worth having at all!
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Postby formerly known as hf » Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:52 am

Seko's right - bronze would have to deteriorate faster, as it's easier to make, and in reality is less durable than iron...
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Postby Lumin » Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:20 am

Hey, a weapon that's about as powerful as iron but doesn't require you to spend years running from one side of the continent to another? (and that doesn't even factor in the tools required...) I'd say it was well worth it, and so what if it deteriorates faster if it's quicker to replace.
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Postby Nick » Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:41 am

julie2 wrote:WHAT??? If they deteriorate faster, they won't be worth having at all!


I have yet to see something iron break yet. I don't see why all of your posts suggest that items deteriorate a few days after making them.
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Postby kroner » Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:59 am

yes, bronze!

iron holds up ridiculously well and is also ridiculously expensive, so having some cheaper (in both cost and quality) alternatives would be good.
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Postby TatteredShoeLace » Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:48 am

The only thing Ive seen break is a primitive bow...boo hoo. If it takes 2 days to make, it won't kill you to make a new one in 3 years.
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Postby Nick » Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:01 am

kroner wrote:yes, bronze!

iron holds up ridiculously well and is also ridiculously expensive, so having some cheaper (in both cost and quality) alternatives would be good.


The looks of it, bronze would actually be harder to make.
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Postby Spectrus_Wolfus » Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:44 pm

i agree fully that we need alternative metals used for weapons,tools and protection.



unless i'm mistaken that was one of the main reasons besides realism that deterioration was brought in


p.s. i can't spell for nuts :lol:
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Postby SekoETC » Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:32 pm

This may not be the right place but I think the problem with detoriaration (did I spell it right now?) is that the whole thing vanishes when in real life even if you might break the wooden parts many times, the metal parts would still stay in one piece, even if they'd get a bit dull.
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Postby Nick » Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:00 pm

SekoETC wrote:This may not be the right place but I think the problem with detoriaration (did I spell it right now?) is that the whole thing vanishes when in real life even if you might break the wooden parts many times, the metal parts would still stay in one piece, even if they'd get a bit dull.


Agreed.

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