The Dead Character Thread

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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby SekoETC » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:48 pm

I don't have a new death to report but I felt like revisiting Coventina's life and death again and I didn't want to start a new topic. It's so sad that she had to lose all dignity before she died. Of course it was her own fault for appearing in public drunk with inappropriate clothing and interrupting Rune's memorial service but she had a drinking problem. All those mean things Jupiter said to her didn't help. And in the past it was completely okay to forget people in jail and let them starve to death but times changed while she couldn't keep up with it. In her last moments she was crying and scared of what was going to happen in the afterlife, would it be just eternal punishment? Her nose was running and it was not a pretty sight. I would like to think that she got reunited with her past lovers and they forgave her for all her wrongdoings, but the truth is there is no Cantr afterlife. It all ends in death.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby Vega » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:12 pm

Actually, cantr is the only place where you know for sure that there can be an afterlife.
Chars birth (birth? born?) and grow in cantr, but, when they die, some of them are stuck in your brain as a part of you.
I've got birthday congratulations "by" cantr deceased characters. I've RP outside cantr with deceased chars, wrote about them and face RL stuff through their eyes.
So... don't let her die, and she'll live as long as you'll want.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby SekoETC » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:45 am

I just can't do that. People are affected by their environment, and when they're uprooted from their social sphere, they're not the same person anymore.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby MattWithoos » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:38 am

I couldn't see a better way for her to die. She'd have lost all dignity in a war if she was imprisoned, she'd have lost all dignity if she was captured by pirates, and she'd have lost all dignity if she just faded into obscurity.

What I liked about her death was that it was foreshadowed by not one, not two but by three events. It unfolded like a rich story.

The first foreshadowing (and I'm speaking entirely from my own character's experience - maybe there's more, please chime in) was her heart issues. She was having them off and on. Makes sense for someone that old, busy and relied-upon.

The second foreshadowing was the drunken outburst - a few people were soured by that event (not me, I loved it!).

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All three things added to her stress levels, ultimately culminating in her death. A messy death, too. Like come on, what stress-induced deaths are clean? A crossbow bolt to the heart or brain? Sure. Instant-death poison? Yep. But fricken stress-induced? Yeah, that's going to be messy. No two ways about it. No coming into town saying "Hello everyone. I am quite a bit stressed, tee hee! I'm just going to die from a heart attack now. Nice knowin' ya."

Better yet, there was an air of mystique thanks to the main character involved being quite hush-hush about it. Citizens knew she died, and citizens knew it was a messy, dirty, undignified death. Good. We don't have the details, even better. The question mark above her death will remain forever, hopefully.

I think it was a good way to die.

Having said all this, I was and am so sad and disappointed that she died. I knew you'd regret some aspect or all of it. We all regret [edit], whether that's straight away or several months or years down the track. There's always a "what if?". That's the beauty of it, you slot your brick into the wall that is the story of Cantr and it stays there for many, many years. They all build upon each other to create a taller wall. One brick alone does nothing, a hundred bricks make history.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby pyrphoros » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:24 am

It has been a little while since the last time I played Cantr. Things in RL, especially my job, pulled me very hard out of the green world. These are my characters back then:

1. Luc Blanc

He was a businessman and I can say he was quite good at it. In the first ten years of his life, he managed to acquire about a thousand days worth of work. More than just a trade practitioner, he also studied, experimented, and wrote about general principles of economics, trading, regional business, and manufacture. After his peak days, he retired his trading activities not long after his 30s and turns his attention to industrial manufacturing and politics. He set up a plan to develop a precise, efficient, and high-profitability manufacturing system that would involve several towns in its process; and he planned to enter the politics, but his health and strength deteriorated rapidly, leaving his plan unfinished and his political agenda unknown. He fell in a chronic sleeping sickness and in his final days, he put himself under the protection of his lover.

He always admired and considered Coventina and Philis James his mentors. And several other names who left some impact on his life would be Josephine Sunborn, Elyos Vycarius, Novus Loreis; and of course, the love of his life, his love on the first sight, Serena Sterling.

His magnum opus was a book, whose title I forgot, it was his autobiography and his study on economic, business, trading, and manufacturing.

2. Napoleon

Three ladies lived their quiet life in a slow, peaceful, and decent coastal town on the tip of a peninsula, guarded by a solemn and kind-hearted giant.

Then spawned a man who was a mixture of hyperactivity, obsessive compulsive disorder, manic disorder, and schizophrenic delusions. He couldn't stop moving, scored minus three in focusing, he talked alot, he talked with bench and bucket, let alone the animals. He has a ship wreck as his home, with an imaginary copper bath tube as the furnishing, with a sign "Everybody Invited" above the ever-opened door.

The good news was he couldn't stop working. He was such an industrious person, he made the oldest lady revealed the town's huge deposit of wealth and resources, which he threw them all into projects, a lot of projects, endless projects, non-sense projects, from telescopes to kite, from clothes to dynamite powder.

The town was started to be developed as sailors and traders come and go when he sailed alone to a far bigger town to deal a business. He did the business very well, he even sold some big fireworks there. He brought back good percentage of profit, but on his way home, he was murdered by one of the girl from the town and her sailor friends.

Napoleon never reached his 30s.


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Several other less significant characters of mine were:
Godot di Knatri the religious
Jonathan Livingstone the revolutionary
Multatuli the fisherman
Leonardo Adamo.


Btw. I missed playing Cantr, I missed you all.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby altoids » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:46 am

MattWithoos wrote:The third foreshadowing was the secret plot against her which was being unraveled.


Is this really the right place and time to promote your in-game agendas against characters who are still very much involved in politics? Characters you're still working against with other characters than the one who personally "unraveled" the plot?
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby Wolfsong » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:50 am

If returner/Mattwithoos is breaking CR by referring to existing actions/events IG, it should probably be reported to staff, not bantered back and forth with on the forums.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby MattWithoos » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:52 am

Altoids wrote:Is this really the right place and time to promote your in-game agendas against characters who are still very much involved in politics? Characters you're still working against with other characters than the one who personally "unraveled" the plot?


a) I'm not sure quoting me helps with your concerns

b) I have no idea what you're talking about

c) I have no idea what agenda you are talking about, too

d) If you still have a concern, edit your post, send me a private message, and I'll ask mods to edit my post.

Wolfsong wrote:If returner/Mattwithoos is breaking CR by referring to existing actions/events IG, it should probably be reported to staff, not bantered back and forth with on the forums.


Yes, exactly this. Even though I have no idea what Altoids is talking about, it would be far more prudent to report me than quote the concerning text. Unfortunately, it would be fruitless because I have no agenda.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby MonkeyPants4736 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:48 pm

MattWithoos wrote:"... Citizens knew she died, and citizens knew it was a messy, dirty, undignified death..."


Unless I am mistaken, people do not know whether it was messy, dirty, or undignified. All anyone saw, unless something was revealed by the character who was with her, was that she went inside and didn't come back out alive. Maybe it was a wild party in there, for all anyone knows :P

Edit: I don't think it;s a big deal, but was just commenting :)
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby Genie » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:08 pm

MonkeyPants4736 wrote:
MattWithoos wrote:"... Citizens knew she died, and citizens knew it was a messy, dirty, undignified death..."


Unless I am mistaken, people do not know whether it was messy, dirty, or undignified. All anyone saw, unless something was revealed by the character who was with her, was that she went inside and didn't come back out alive. Maybe it was a wild party in there, for all anyone knows :P

Edit: I don't think it;s a big deal, but was just commenting :)

She was an important character and she put her mark in Cantr history, but I don't think she had been pushed to the edge just by some recent events. Such kind of statements about this topic making me feel like there's another reason behind the comments and I wonder am I the only one having that impression.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby MonkeyPants4736 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:22 pm

Genie, I wasn't trying to allude to anything interesting, I'm afraid. I was just trying to point out that Coventina's Player only said Out of Character what the death was like. In-game, characters do not know what the death was like.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby SekoETC » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:43 pm

I think it's good that there is some mystery involved. When she could feel she was having a heart attack, she went inside so that she wouldn't have to lose face in front of the whole town. Being in pain is a private matter. But she didn't want to die alone either, so she picked the only person that was both awake and trustworthy.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby MattWithoos » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:00 am

Well, it's been what feels like a year, but better late than never.

Flynn died under unfortunate circumstances. I won't reveal exactly how, or by who, but it was basically an emotionally-charged murder - a flurry of emotions and poor thinking by the character. I don't blame the character, I think it was very IC and well done.

Flynn started his life in that tiny island, Shai? Sring-si? Eh. He was honest, dependable, quiet, genuine, curious, innocent... That kind of youthful eagerness was his mantra. He was the last character of all of mine I'd expect to die.

He worked and worked, and made his own Soarer or similar boat. He was so excited - he had built rooms, and gathered a lot of resources and had literally just started his adventure.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby Snowdrop » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:55 am

Aw...I was wondering how he was getting on just the other day... :(
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby MattWithoos » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:39 pm

Snowdrop wrote:Aw...I was wondering how he was getting on just the other day... :(


He led a really happy life. But I don't think I've ever experienced so viscerally the fear he felt during his death. Felt like I was actually there. It was pretty torturous. An incredibly undignified death, he didn't fight back, he just took it, tears mixing with blood, sobbing. Urgh. :cry: But that's Cantr and I'd take a roleplayed death over a quick silent death anyday! (I'm grateful for the player doing that!)


Totally unrelated, are the players Mee and Brujah still around?

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