Thinking about quitting.....

[MonkeyPants4736]

For those thinking of quitting, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ua3O_fdCY
The sheer cuteness will overcome you and you will forget to want to quit.

[Rebma]

I'm sure this has been long awaited.

I want to apologize to everyone for my recent inactivity. Most people know I've been dealing with a family illness for a couple years now and the last few months it's coming towards its inevitable finish. And now another member is ill.

Spreading your time between work and two parents who need you is hard. So anyways I've pretty much been neglecting my characters and if you're around them and they're dying don't bother going out of your way to keep them alive because I'm not X-ING but I have no idea when I'll be back.

Feel free to murder them in their sleep for all their keys and shit. I won't be mad.

See you guys around.

[Kyriel]

I decided to hang in there, though the decision did not come lightly. Part of this was due to the .. probably 3 characters that would maybe be emotionally impacted... part was due to a few in-game ooc conversations of others encouraging me that the rottenness which happened isn't common (thank you)... and part of my reasoning is because....what...4?... people have quit in the last week? I just discovered another today, and me and my character are deeply saddened at missing the opportunity to interact with your refreshingly unique character.

I don't know, it's always OOC conversations that destroy the game for me and make me want to quit, personally, no matter what they're about. They're incredibly disruptive, jarring, and ruin the game. When something happens in-game, and someone just puts out a lot of OOC, it doesn't even make me want to resolve the situation satisfactorily. I can no longer take it seriously, and it makes me think that the other player isn't really capable of roleplaying. The point of roleplaying is to create a story.

[Marian]

I don't know, it's always OOC conversations that destroy the game for me and make me want to quit, personally, no matter what they're about. They're incredibly disruptive, jarring, and ruin the game. When something happens in-game, and someone just puts out a lot of OOC, it doesn't even make me want to resolve the situation satisfactorily. I can no longer take it seriously, and it makes me think that the other player isn't really capable of roleplaying. The point of roleplaying is to create a story.

This x1000. It's way too common lately, even (especially?) among players who've been around long enough to know better, and needs to stop. Even when well intended, an OOC conversation is an instant immersion breaker and a huge disruption to everyone in earshot. fireintherye, since you're a new player (well, new-ish, at 4 months) you may not be aware of this, so just a warning that all those in-game OOC conversations you've had can be reportable. OOC remarks are supposed to be limited to mechanics questions that can't be explained IC.

[fireintherye]

fireintherye, since you're a new player (well, new-ish, at 4 months) you may not be aware of this, so just a warning that all those in-game OOC conversations you've had can be reportable. OOC remarks are supposed to be limited to mechanics questions that can't be explained IC.

I'm aware of it. I wanted to courteously prepare a few characters by telling them I was seriously considering quitting because I didn't want them jarred by any losses. They were courteous enough to respond, and convinced me to stay. It was done in whispers to three separate characters, so it wasn't disruptive to the game, I think.

[Wolfsong]

I'll throw out an OOC if I'm going to be away for an extended period of time, etc., just to let other parties know my characters may be quieter than normal... But that's about the extent of it, unless I'm helping a newbie out - and even then I'd prefer to take it to another medium, AIM or IRC or whatever.

[*Wiro]

I'll throw out an OOC if I'm going to be away for an extended period of time, etc., just to let other parties know my characters may be quieter than normal...

This is also against the rules. You can do this IC just fine, and that way people can respond to it. Please keep in mind that any OOC that aims to influence other players is reportable, no matter how small. You might not think it is disruptive to let them know you'll be sleepy, but it is because the characters don't know that this sleeper is any different from other sleepers. Keep it IC and there's no problems and people can go out of their way to feed you if they want to.

"I'm a bit busy going through all these old notes. Please bear with me for another year or two and I'll be fine."
"*snores for a long time*"
...or just plain and simple, "I'm going to be sleepy for a while longer."

The same goes for explaining radio bans or other restrictions on your character, pirates being unable to go to a town because you have another char there, etcetera. Other characters can't go "oh okay" because they can't hear your OOC message.

[SekoETC]

I find this pretty ridiculous. In any other game this would be acceptable. People only report OOC messages as disruptive because they're oversensitive.

[*Wiro]

I wouldn't normally report them, but in one town leader's case I would because the people had been protesting against theirbsleepiness for a long time. This person's attempt to use OOC to calm people down is exactly why it's against the rules: characters can't see or hear your OOC messages and they cannot respond to them in any way.

[Marian]

I find this pretty ridiculous. In any other game this would be acceptable. People only report OOC messages as disruptive because they're oversensitive.

(OOC: I'll be asleep for a year, make sure I don't starve!) and (OOC: I'm still playing the game, don't worry! I'll wake up soon and take care of things!) could just as easily be said IC, without requiring other characters to act on an OOC message they're not supposed to have even heard. If you can log in and only type one line, why not an IC one?

Long whispered OOC conversations are better than public ones, but they still can be overheard, and they leave your char wondering what those two are talking about. Ask them though and there's nothing they can tell you, because the OOC conversation never happened IC even though you've got a screen full of whispers, and your character saw them too.

Random OOC remarks over completely trivial things are also annoying. But that's not even getting into the whiny OOC tirades that have become so common. Seko, seriously, can you really stare at paragraphs of public OOC in the middle of what's supposed to be a tense situation and say it's not disruptive?

[sherman]

I don't see that much trouble with it really. Sometimes it's just best way to act and inform others. Since we don't have holiday mode on this game I rather inform if I am sleep than find my char dead

[Marian]

I don't see that much trouble with it really. Sometimes it's just best way to act and inform others. Since we don't have holiday mode on this game I rather inform if I am sleep than find my char dead

But that was my point. Why can't you just have them say, with their mouths, that they'll be in a deep sleep awhile and to please keep an eye on them? Why does it need to be an OOC message? Any character that acts like they know you'll be in a deep sleep, in that case, is letting their actions get directed OOCly.

[sherman]

But with OOC you can tell more details. Specially if you don't know how long it will last. I mean most do it this way so what's the problem? Way better than using irc or so.. At least someone can monitor nobody is cheating system. Cause when using outside game things nobody can monitor

Guess everything is okay when we have time to work with dots here

[*Wiro]

You can do the same IC. It's debatable whether it's fair, but that the rule exists is not. In short, you should be aware of the risk of getting reported whenever you use OOC. Especially when you're specifically using it to influence other characters.

[Snickie]

1234 5-06: Snick says: "-she sits up, banging her head on the nearest piece of equipment and startles. a second later she's back to being sleepy as she pushes herself to her feet and shuffles over to the food stash. She's clearly not fully awake -- maybe she's sleepwalking. But she also lacks the deadness of the eye most commonly seen in those soulless newspawn sleepers that are just too far gone. She shuffles back inside and settles down and goes back to sleep-"


I think that gets the point across.