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Executioners Weapon

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Postby west » Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:34 pm

that would be obviated by making hanging a project, and making sure only one person can be hanged at once.
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Postby kroner » Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:48 pm

Alright, that's a good point.
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Postby NetherSpawn » Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:31 am

If you make a killing machine, don't make it a gallows. My guess is that the reason for a gallows is that it's a no-mess execution technique, not that it's an easy way to execute someone. Slamming someone again a spike, or pushing them over on a spike, is much easier, and is similar in theory to dragging. An impalement spike would be better.
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Postby Cheshierekat » Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:05 am

Nah, I think gallows are.
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Postby SekoETC » Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:32 pm

Really, I think 6 persons is far too much, amount of executioners should be dependant of the prisoner's strenght, I'd say the combined strenght of the draggers need to be four times the strenght of the prisoner. So if he or she is in perfect health (which I highly doubt), four draggers are needed, but if less than 25% then a single person can handle the job. It is a project that should take maybe half a day, a full day sounds too much. I should say 3 to 7 hours Cantr time. Before enough draggers have joined the project, the prisoner may escape by walking off, but when the right number of people is around, only way is to get assistance from outside. (Just beat the draggers so that their combined strenght goes lower than 4x prisoner's strenght.)
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Postby NetherSpawn » Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:27 am

In other words, it's impossible to hang someone if they're very alert.
Although that does give the defender some chance, it's not exactly a good way to do it.
A few people can completely paralyze, and then kill, any character. Regardless of their equipment, so no shields, weapon, healing food, or crowbar can save you, and regardless of their equipment as well.
I don't like it when you can guarantee someone's quick death in Cantr. Also, death is supposed to come via damage. A fixed weapon I could see, but this makes it extremely easy to kill any character quickly as long as they aren't alert enough. That's not a good thing. Normally if people were trying to hang you and you had a bastard sword, you would hit them with it. With dragging it's fine because dragging isn't lethal, but executing is a bit different.
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Postby Robert » Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:29 am

Maybe put autoattack in for if being put up to execution?
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Postby Cheshierekat » Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:09 am

NO AUTO ATTACK!!!! :evil:
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Postby Robert » Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:46 am

Or not
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Postby Kreed » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:52 pm

I'd also like a guillotine, with the same basic physics as the gallows.
It should be a project that a character is dragged to. What about stocks as well? That should require a project and character dragging. The person would be in the stocks so long as the project was continued, (by the person guarding them). They would be imobile but able to talk and be seen, perhaps have their belongings removed?

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Postby mikejacobs14 » Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:24 pm

Kreed wrote:I'd also like a guillotine, with the same basic physics as the gallows.
It should be a project that a character is dragged to. What about stocks as well? That should require a project and character dragging. The person would be in the stocks so long as the project was continued, (by the person guearding them). They would be imobile but able to talk and be seen, perhaps have their belongings removed?






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Postby Just A Bill » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:03 pm

I am against this, too easy to kill people. If what we are looking for is to deter theives, how about public displays of bodies, al la Vlad the Impaler...
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Postby Kreed » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:36 pm

Given that two or three people can drag someone into a locked building and kill them out of sight, or chase them along the road and kill them pretty much out of sight, I think this method is slightly harder, as you have to have the machine, people to help drag and to perform the project, and all in plain sight and hearing!


1581-7.25: newspawns says: "Please someone help me. I dont deserve this!"

1581-7.25: You see newspawn being dragged by burly guard and sneeky townsman from the central area of Here to The Guillotine.

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Postby Pie » Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:00 pm

This is a GREAT IDEA!!! COMON!!! the only people who don't like this would be CRABBY OLD SEDIMENTARY CANTR OLDIES..... and there the ones controlling the cantr world... THIS TOPIC HAS NO CHANCE!!!


This is a good way of exicuting someone. Say a place wants a more humain way of exicuting someone...(well, its more humain to the people watching it...) Or they wan't a torture device or they want a quick way of killing someone with alot of power(say a corupt government wants to kill someone before the people revult and save him, Or that the governmetn wants to crush the hopes and dreams of the people, thus rendering them only mindless drones who do what the leader sais....) THIS IDEA ROCKS!!!
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Postby Phalynx » Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:14 pm

Pie wrote:This is a GREAT IDEA!!! COMON!!! the only people who don't like this would be CRABBY OLD SEDIMENTARY CANTR OLDIES..... and there the ones controlling the cantr world... THIS TOPIC HAS NO CHANCE!!!



I agree with Pie.. I want to see a Mussolini like deaht.. why shouldn't 6 newspawns be able to wilfully remove an oppresive leader irrespective of the ir weapons and strength.

I think the most straight forward way is to make hanging a 1 day project with no escape but can be cancelled at any time up to that 8 hours by any of the initiators or by all initiators being dragged to another location. this would prevent a small group from doing crazy hit and run attacks.
I think it should require the same number as dragging, not 6. that 8 hours would allow for plenty of RP, persuasion or interference by other interested parties surely!
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