Sim Praise

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Re: Sim Praise

Postby Marian » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:10 pm

oddedd wrote:Praise to all in Akypor at the moment from a Sim point of view. Lots of kool business and sim ideas knocking about.


Akypor on the surface has always seemed like it could be some kind of simmer's paradise, but from what I saw last time there it was being held back by the same problems as most other towns, sleepy leaders and only like one guy ever accomplishing anything. But glad to hear that might be changing. :)
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby catwill » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:30 pm

Jack Wintersteen I heart you so hard.

Also, all the sleepy workers in Karnon Fields, but Eldarin you need to wake up, friend. We miss you.
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby Slowness_Incarnate » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:46 pm

I used to pester Jack Wintersteen and wake him up once in a while. Such a sleepy head, but constant worker. :P
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby danizappa » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:25 am

This topic shocks me. Cant quite deal with simming.
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby hyrle » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:04 am

Keep in mind that the OP wasn't praising simply "quiet" simming, but more like praising some innovating ways of planning their towns and economies and businesses... people daring to do something maybe a little different with their towns or businesses. Maybe "simming" isn't the right word... maybe "society building" would be the more appropriate thing to praise.
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby Marian » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:16 am

Right, that's how I've always defined 'simming' in my head. There's nothing saying they have to be quiet, just basically anyone who makes plans for development and trade and does productive work and sees Cantr more as a society simulator than a chat room. The people who make towns actually function.

Simmers are the reason we're not all standing around outside with bone knives and loincloths, having whisper sex and living off raw potatoes. :P
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby hyrle » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:24 am

Not that there's anything wrong with raw potatoes and whisper sex... but there is more to Cantr life than that, in my book. :D
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby Wolfsong » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:26 am

I'm not so sure simmers are the reason for that. Most of the "simmers" I run into are just work-idling, unresponsive, and pretty much only still exist because their player hasn't hit the X button yet. There are plenty of people who would/might class themselves as roleplayers instead who actually do a hell of a lot more than simmers do for society.

I was under the impression that this thread was started because people who don't contribute to the game wanted to still feel special, hence all the "to everyone at X, even though I have no idea what your names are because you don't ever engage anyone, good work sleep working!"
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby bnlphan » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:57 am

I've given up mostly on role playing. I'm just no good at it and often it feels very awkward. My characters make other characters mad because they ignore sexual advances and idle chit chat. I try at times but I often fail. I do keep my charactter busy (except one that was just for rp purposes) My charries are always working towards a goal. Mostly helping out or improving the town they are in. They may be dull but they are rarely idle. They are just as happy working on a 50 day road improvment as they are cooking meat to feed their fellow citizens. That's what simming is to me.
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby Wolfsong » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:11 am

See, I think you're misinterpreting what roleplay actually is. It isn't about long, flowery paragraphs of prose, or sex. It's about playing a character. There can be descriptive elements to roleplay, but there can just as well be simple things that develop a character. Roleplay is about not breaking character, and creating a character that feels legitimate in a world that exists as a society simulator. - A character with a personality and will of their own, separate of their player's.
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby hyrle » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:24 am

bnlphan wrote:I've given up mostly on role playing. I'm just no good at it and often it feels very awkward. My characters make other characters mad because they ignore sexual advances and idle chit chat. I try at times but I often fail. I do keep my charactter busy (except one that was just for rp purposes) My charries are always working towards a goal. Mostly helping out or improving the town they are in. They may be dull but they are rarely idle. They are just as happy working on a 50 day road improvment as they are cooking meat to feed their fellow citizens. That's what simming is to me.


I've had the pleasure of knowing a few of bnlphan's characters - including one of mine spending several years with one of bnlphan's. What she lacked in RP, she made up for in knowledge of the game and of working for a goal. I have other characters who "chat" and do the whole romance thing, but bnlphan's character was my example of how to plan, work and trade - and I learned a lot in my early days having a character with them. So sim praise for you, for sure. I enjoy the RP aspects of the game, but the simming aspects provide enjoyment for me as well.
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby bnlphan » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:04 am

Lol Hyrle. I had to go snoop through your I am thread posts and others to see which characters of yours I have played with. One fore sure in the past One I'm fairly cedrtain of right now. Guess I'm going to have to be more difficult with my I am posts so people don't guess haha.
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby Swingerzetta » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:22 am

Wolfsong wrote:I'm not so sure simmers are the reason for that. Most of the "simmers" I run into are just work-idling, unresponsive, and pretty much only still exist because their player hasn't hit the X button yet. There are plenty of people who would/might class themselves as roleplayers instead who actually do a hell of a lot more than simmers do for society.

I was under the impression that this thread was started because people who don't contribute to the game wanted to still feel special, hence all the "to everyone at X, even though I have no idea what your names are because you don't ever engage anyone, good work sleep working!"


I suspect that those 'simmers' are not ones that would end up getting mentioned in this thread. It's a bit of a vague term, I guess, since everyone will have their own idea of what it means.
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby Marian » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:06 pm

I guess I just don't understand this idea that you have to be an unresponsive robot to be considered a simmer. And since these are the people a lot of the flashier RPers with the big ideas depend on to actually get shit done, it seems a little rude to be downplaying their role or implying they're somehow playing the game wrong.
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Re: Sim Praise

Postby hyrle » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:15 pm

I suppose the difference is that some of the flashier RPers do a lot to get their societies going, but they are typically recognized for their RP. I believe the OPs point is that he wanted to praise some characters who maybe AREN'T as flashy at RP, yet are doing big things for their societies. In a way, I actually see being a quiet planner as playing a role... but it's not one that often gets praised.

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