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Cantr Wiki
Hey, why not set up a Wiki so players can put information like a FAQ.
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A Wiki is a series of webpages that can be immediately edited by anybody and everybody. The largest existing project is probably http://www.wikipedia.org, where they try to create the world's largest and most up-to-date encyclopedia, using this concept.
Unilang has its own Wiki as well, for language-related stuff: http://wiki.unilang.org.
And there are hundreds of imitators.
The advantages are:
- knowledge can spread very quickly, since creating an article there is just as easy as writing the same article in Notepad (you don't have the hassle of writing HTML, needing special programs or having to upload the result)
- articles can be linked more easily than they could be in a regular lexicon
- everybody can contribute without being able to cause havoc on non-wiki pages
- mistakes can be edited out very quickly and the whole community can watch out for them - the burden of doing so is on everybody, rather than just those with admin privileges.
The disadvantages are:
- if there are too few people participating, mistakes may be in place for a long time
- there will be the occasional idiot who just changes the content of all the Wiki pages to "you stink" or something like that, so you need people to notice whenever that happened and quickly restore an old version of the page (using the "History" of the page, not too difficult)
- if people participating are too enthusiastic about it, there may be edit wars, with people changing the page back and forth arguing about the information or the formulation
With regard to Cantr in particular, I think a wiki would be a good place to store information about the people and places and history; information that would get lost or disconnected on the forum. However, it would require a lot of monitoring for CR breaches and any kind of information that you would want people to learn about in-game.
As for the Spanish(?) Wiki, I only recall that somebody wrote an article on Wikipedia about Cantr. He didn't say anything about working on a Cantr wiki or the like.
Unilang has its own Wiki as well, for language-related stuff: http://wiki.unilang.org.
And there are hundreds of imitators.
The advantages are:
- knowledge can spread very quickly, since creating an article there is just as easy as writing the same article in Notepad (you don't have the hassle of writing HTML, needing special programs or having to upload the result)
- articles can be linked more easily than they could be in a regular lexicon
- everybody can contribute without being able to cause havoc on non-wiki pages
- mistakes can be edited out very quickly and the whole community can watch out for them - the burden of doing so is on everybody, rather than just those with admin privileges.
The disadvantages are:
- if there are too few people participating, mistakes may be in place for a long time
- there will be the occasional idiot who just changes the content of all the Wiki pages to "you stink" or something like that, so you need people to notice whenever that happened and quickly restore an old version of the page (using the "History" of the page, not too difficult)
- if people participating are too enthusiastic about it, there may be edit wars, with people changing the page back and forth arguing about the information or the formulation
With regard to Cantr in particular, I think a wiki would be a good place to store information about the people and places and history; information that would get lost or disconnected on the forum. However, it would require a lot of monitoring for CR breaches and any kind of information that you would want people to learn about in-game.
As for the Spanish(?) Wiki, I only recall that somebody wrote an article on Wikipedia about Cantr. He didn't say anything about working on a Cantr wiki or the like.
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You were just waiting till someone stupid (Me) came around and asked what a Wiki was, just so you could write that big long answer and look cool, didn't cha? I bet you did! NOOGIE! *Noogies*
Kidding around. That seems like a pretty cool idea, I agree with getting one. Does one need to be programmed, or are there templates available?
Kidding around. That seems like a pretty cool idea, I agree with getting one. Does one need to be programmed, or are there templates available?
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Anthony Roberts wrote:I agree with getting one.
I'm not sure whether we should get one yet. There should be a staff discussion.
Does one need to be programmed, or are there templates available?
There are lots of free templates available online.
And please, what is a noogie? My knowledge of American slang is <0, if that's possible.
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That's why I said -I- agree, and not "I speak for everyone on staff when I say that this is a good idea."
And, a noogie is when someone grabs your head and locks it under their arm, while their opposite free hand comes and rubs the top of your head with their knuckles, messing up your hair.
And, a noogie is when someone grabs your head and locks it under their arm, while their opposite free hand comes and rubs the top of your head with their knuckles, messing up your hair.
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Yes for once anthony is right!
Anyways, I think that a Wikipedia would be great, it would be nice for keeping a history of people/places/events of everywhere, of course it would be a lot of information because of all the dead characters.
And of course there is the possibly someone could somehow use it for a cr breach, but meh what else is new.
Anyways, I think that a Wikipedia would be great, it would be nice for keeping a history of people/places/events of everywhere, of course it would be a lot of information because of all the dead characters.
And of course there is the possibly someone could somehow use it for a cr breach, but meh what else is new.
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Sorry, I should've posted a link to an existing WikiPedia.. or rather *the* WikiPedia.. http://www.wikipedia.org
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Ah, clearly I was confused when I wrote the above reply. I thought we were talking about the Wikipedia, and I didn't know there was something 'Wiki' that was not the Wikipedia
... I liked the idea of an encyclopedea entry for Cantr - I don't really see the use of a general 'Wiki' for Cantr. Can someone argue why this would be so useful?
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I like the idea if it were used for the FAQ like originally proposed. It would limit the amount of help request for simple things on the forum or in e-mails for assistance, because the answers would be right there. Plus, it would be player maintained, so I wouldn't have to do all the work
The only thing that worries me, is some jerk character, like West for example (:lol:) coming on and wiping the entire database with "West IS a Jerk!", ya know? I'd be aggrivated over that.
The only thing that worries me, is some jerk character, like West for example (:lol:) coming on and wiping the entire database with "West IS a Jerk!", ya know? I'd be aggrivated over that.
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Jos Elkink wrote:Well, I have no objections. If anyone feels like setting this up, I see no reason why not.
Keeping in mind the capital rule, of course ...
Set up the Wiki just for FAQ information? Or also for accumulating information about the history of cities and people (keeping in mind the 4 day rule, so perhaps just legendary stuff?)? Who, apart from the average user, will watch out for CRBs and violations of the 4-day rule there? We would need some people with admin privileges for that... basically anybody could spot a breach and delete it, but if he isn't an admin, the original would still be visible as one of the 'historic' versions of the page.
Anthony Roberts wrote:The only thing that worries me, is some jerk character, like West for example () coming on and wiping the entire database with "West IS a Jerk!", ya know? I'd be aggrivated over that.
Fortunately most Wiki interfaces give you the chance to change any page back to what it was before, using the "History" button. So there's virtually no possibility of erasing knowledge or "wiping the entire database" except with admin privileges. All that malicious people could do is be a nuisance.
Judith
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Junesun wrote:Set up the Wiki just for FAQ information?
Well, why not? Would that be pointless in your opinion?
Junesun wrote:Or also for accumulating information about the history of cities and people (keeping in mind the 4 day rule, so perhaps just legendary stuff?)?
Hmm, possible, as long as it's really a long time ago. But there it indeed gets slightly more scary.
And you're right about the admin problem. We would need an active staff member as admin, I guess, who doesn't necessarily write most things but just is there in case of trouble. Maybe a PD member is interested or a Marketing member, or you?
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