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Postby Wim van de Griendt » Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:52 pm

Bowser wrote:renders this feature untrustworthy.


Here you have the problem. If players know this and let their characters act on this information, it is breaking the capital rule. So if you want to aviod people braking the capital rule, you must keep the information as limited as possible, because the past has learned us that some people are not able to live up to this rule when opportunities arise to exploit some bugs or unintentionnal side-effects of the program (which you can also see as a bug ofcourse).
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Postby The Industriallist » Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:17 pm

A) So the way the game functions is more secret than how to make an oven?

B) I tested it with one character and have assumed that all my characters have the basic world-function knowledge like that (now that I do...Seem many other posts...) If you prefer, I would be happy to allow each of my characters to 'discover' the big secret when appropriate...

Unless all this obscure talk means that it is officially considered a bug. In that case, I won't ever use it again. But no one has actually outright said that you aren't supposed to be able to <content pre-censored to save time>.

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But OOC knowledge, as I have been arguing for ever, shouldn't be power. Which means that things like this ought to be either public, or banned.
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Postby Junesun » Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:48 pm

The Industriallist wrote:Unless all this obscure talk means that it is officially considered a bug. In that case, I won't ever use it again. But no one has actually outright said that you aren't supposed to be able to <content pre-censored to save time>.


To make this clear: this is a bug, it has been reported several times by now and the Programming Department is looking for a way to solve it. So no, you should NOT exploit this bug and also not tell others who might be tempted to exploit it. Whenever you notice something that could be exploited, please don't report it in the public forums but rather send an e-mail to bugs@cantr.net .

As for editing the posts without further notice, that is a more controversial matter being discussed elsewhere.

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Postby NetherSpawn » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:13 am

To my knowledge, no one uses the ability in the game that this whole thing is about covering up the pointlessness of. How could it possibly cause chaos for people to know?
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Postby NetherSpawn » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:25 am

Junesun wrote:
The Industriallist wrote:Unless all this obscure talk means that it is officially considered a bug. In that case, I won't ever use it again. But no one has actually outright said that you aren't supposed to be able to <content pre-censored to save time>.


To make this clear: this is a bug,...

What's a bug? I'm pretty sure I know, but you STILL haven't told people "outright" that they aren't supposed to do it. So... you've ACTIVALLY denied yourself the ability to prosecute it without being accurately described by censorable words, since no one has actually been instructed not to do it with the arguable exception of The Industrialist. And yet you want people to not do it.
If ever there's been a funny time to exploit it, it's now. (I won't, but nonetheless...)
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Postby Junesun » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:50 am

What's a bug? I'm pretty sure I know, but you STILL haven't told people "outright" that they aren't supposed to do it. So... you've ACTIVALLY denied yourself the ability to prosecute it without being accurately described by censorable words, since no one has actually been instructed not to do it with the arguable exception of The Industrialist. And yet you want people to not do it.

No, I won't describe the bug on the public forum, since it would tempt people to exploit it. However, those who know it already can guess which bug is meant from the previous discussion and they are hereby told not to make use of it. In fact, I don't need to be more specific, since ANY bug is not to be exploited.

If ever there's been a funny time to exploit it, it's now. (I won't, but nonetheless...)

I disagree. It would the most stupid thing to do. The staff knows that this bug was being discussed, even if just for a couple of hours, so I'm sure that the Players Department is watching out for people exploiting it now - since that would be illegal use of OOC knowledge.

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Postby NetherSpawn » Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:23 am

Junesun wrote: The staff knows that this bug was being discussed, even if just for a couple of hours, so I'm sure that the Players Department is watching out for people exploiting it now - since that would be illegal use of OOC knowledge.

Fine. So, every character who wants to exploit it has to figure it out for themselves. But if they do, you can't call it illegal use of OOC knowledge, it would be illegal use of a bug in the game.
It doesn't look like a bug. I never assumed it was one until this post chain. I merely assumed that for the desired effect you need to use resources.
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Postby Sparkle » Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:44 pm

I feel that since the PD is making sure no one takes advantage of this bug that it should be ok to post what the bug is so know one accidentally finds it and use it.

I know if I do something different in game I assume I could have done it before but just didn't know how. I won't think it's a bug and may continue doing it........so does that make it wrong?

Of course it does.....but how do I know that.
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Postby Appleide » Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:44 pm

yeah.. one of my chars created zombies before, she duplicated dead bodies that you could interact with.....

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