Suicide button for not wanted characters?

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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby Doug R. » Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:43 pm

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SekoETC wrote: I think the option should be there for everybody as long as they have a good reason.

Which ends up working only for people who know someone in staff, not for all.

Players can come up with what it seems a good reason in that moment, only to spawm some characters afterwards. This was discussed years ago on PD and a suicide button was suggested at that time.


The option is available to all players. They just need to email support (as they should for any other problem or concern - I have no idea why people refuse to do this, but I've discovered that there is a wide-spread phobia out there to using email to contact staff for assistance). As I'm the one that typically handles character deletion requests, I will state that you need a damn good reason (the option to have characters not light up has eliminated several previously damn good reasons), you need to wait a few days, after which, I'll ask you again, and then, after the deed is done, if you make more characters (and doing so goes against your stated damn good reason) you will lose all good will with the GAB and never have another kill request granted again, a point I make clear before I do the termination.

Most likely, the perception that this is only available to people with staff connections is due to people that have been refused on the grounds that their reasons weren't damn good enough spread it around that it's not allowed, so people never ask. And the fact that under the previous GAB, it wasn't allowed at all.
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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby Oasis » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:31 am

Hate to butt in here like this, but I disagree with your last statement there, Doug. We did kill off characters if they had a damn good reason as well, if someone needed to cut back, just not very often. (I don't recall there being that many requests, unless it was a captured pirate who didn't want to take their punishment) It does seem to have opened up a lot more, though, I will agree with that.
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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby Sunni Daez » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:44 am

I recall a time, with my last batch, I wanted to cut back, I was told to starve them.
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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby Doug R. » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:47 pm

Oasis wrote:Hate to butt in here like this, but I disagree with your last statement there, Doug. We did kill off characters if they had a damn good reason as well, if someone needed to cut back, just not very often. (I don't recall there being that many requests, unless it was a captured pirate who didn't want to take their punishment) It does seem to have opened up a lot more, though, I will agree with that.


It was a very clear policy when I was a regular PD member that characters were not killed under any circumstance. Perhaps there was a disconnect between the administration and the staff, but it was the PD that was communicating that policy to the players, so that's what the policy was.
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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby CrashBlizz » Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:50 pm

My problem with not being able to choose to kill my character that I choose to create for my use:


At the moment I have 8 characters but I only play three. I havent even looked at the other 5's events in probably over 4 or 5 months and I probably never will. My characters have no in game reason to die, I just dont want to play them anymore. I contacted PD, saying they're getting starved but if they could kill them sooner it'd be helpful. I got told they have to starve.

Unfortuatley they are all liked within their communities and people still continue to feed them. So they'll sit there in the game forever and ever, living statues, 5 little lights at the bottom of my page.

Can some bandits please come and raid the towns? Pretty please?
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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby Doug R. » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:47 pm

CrashBlizz wrote:Unfortuatley they are all liked within their communities and people still continue to feed them. So they'll sit there in the game forever and ever, living statues, 5 little lights at the bottom of my page.


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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby curious » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:24 am

So, basically... the service of removing chars does only exist for those 'in the know' then..?
The alternative being that we have to resort to more creative ways to prevent other chars keeping them alive..?

There will come a tipping point for people, when it is just easier to hit the 'big' suicide button. I think it's quite sad that there is a possibility of losing players because they can't manage their chars easier, and will just get increasingly pissed off at the ones they don't want any more. Bear in mind that it is also shit trying to play an environment with chars in it that you (OOC'ly) know are just dead weight..?
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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby Doug R. » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:33 am

I killed the two you haven't been checking. All the rest you've checked in the last week.
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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby Addicted » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:25 pm

I feel angry at the moment over some players being allowed to use PD to kill off characters and others not.

I really do think there should be a rule that is followed. I am continually being told no, I cannot use PD this way, yet others seem to have the ability to get PD to kill characters whenever they like.

While I do appreciate the work PD does and understand it's not always clear cut, please be fair and consistent. I understand PD are busy and are volunteers and that it may not be fair to put the extra burden of doing this on them until a suicide button (accepted suggestion) is up and running. I concur. But in this case it should be a no to all. I know myself and others would very much like to use this feature if it was available.
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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby EchoMan » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:28 pm

Addicted wrote:I feel angry at the moment over some players being allowed to use PD to kill off characters and others not.

I really do think there should be a rule that is followed. I am continually being told no, I cannot use PD this way, yet others seem to have the ability to get PD to kill characters whenever they like.

While I do appreciate the work PD does and understand it's not always clear cut, please be fair and consistent. I understand PD are busy and are volunteers and that it may not be fair to put the extra burden of doing this on them until a suicide button (accepted suggestion) is up and running. I concur. But in this case it should be a no to all. I know myself and others would very much like to use this feature if it was available.


The PD policy is still that players should handle character deaths in game, without any "divine intervention". It is possible now more than ever, just put a full blocking filter on your characters events, and it will never highlight again.

In this particular case, there was one member of PD who acted out of compassion for a big change in someones life. I will not go into any more details than that.
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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby Addicted » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:30 pm

EchoMan Said:
The PD's policy is still that players should handle character deaths in game, without any "divine intervention". It is possible now more than ever, just pot a full blocking filter on your characters events, and it will never highlight again.

In this particular case, there was one member of PD who acted out of compassion for a big change in someones life. I will not go into any more details than that.


The squeaky gate gets the oil. Again.
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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby EchoMan » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:32 pm

Because I'm awkward at changing the past?
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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby Theda » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:47 pm

Addicted wrote:The squeaky gate gets the oil. Again.

I don't understand this expression.

But, over the years, we have seen that all players will never agree, but so far, I assure you that the PD has always acted with the best intentions and good faith to help all players and that none is harmed. Trying that everyone is treated equally and fairly.

You can think what you want, but this is so.

Anyway, we all hope that the suicide button is available as soon as possible.
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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby Addicted » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:51 pm

Theda, if this is the case, then why do some get compassion and others not? I asked and I can't see why I got told no and another has had this done before and after I asked. How is my case less warranted of compassion? A rule is a rule is a rule. Exceptions? If there are any, why can't I be one?
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Re: Suicide button for not wanted characters?

Postby Theda » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:57 pm

I don't know about you are talking, honestly. Many times, the players don't know what reasons exist and these reasons are private, so they don't have to know them and the PD is criticized unfairly in my opinion.

I repeat this for you:
I assure you that the PD has always acted with the best intentions and good faith to help all players and that none is harmed. Trying that everyone is treated equally and fairly.
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