How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby Mykey » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:58 am

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Aw shucks but that can be alot of fun. :lol:
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby Andu » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:04 am

Vega wrote:It's the same with orientation. I've never knowed where the north is, but cantrians always knows...


Well, one or a few groups of Aborigines in Australia do think in terms of direction, in the sense of a item is northwest of another, and don't have left and right as concepts in their language. That have lead them to have innate sense of direction wherever they are, so why can't Cantrianshave the same?
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby gejyspa » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:25 am

Silly! All one has to do to calculate how much something weighs is compare it to an inifinte stack of notes you are able to generate!
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby Vega » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:31 pm

mojomuppet wrote:Your char spawns at twenty, they are not morons. I play anything in the wiki as common knowledge. I do get caught however some char saying what is this....I ignore it. My chars know weight, most trade values, and what they need to survive. If I have to teach you stuff I know you can see in the wiki too, you are suffering from me teaching your towns history... :wink:


But that's not fair... I'm sure you haven't read all languages wikis... You can't know how difficult is for a new player to find how to make anything. More difficult if you are not playing at your language. Names are so different. And not. Spanish wiki don't tell you all...
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby RedQueen.exe » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:23 pm

gejyspa wrote:Silly! All one has to do to calculate how much something weighs is compare it to an inifinte stack of notes you are able to generate!


I'm trying to make sense of how this would work, but I don't think it was intended to make sense. Foiled again!
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby Mykey » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:19 pm

I have a question, that is mildly related to this topic.


Is basic math a universal, accepted language in Cantr?

This question should be obvious to answer, due to the way resources are collected and allocated. But it`s not to me.

Let me ask this a different way.

If one of my characters was to approach a town leader asking for lots of information on resource avaiaibilty, aquisition, and allocation, because they would like to offer their services in logistics, would it be a CR breach? Would it annoy the crap out of the players? Is it wrong to be that much of a nerd? :lol:

Is there a good reason why, any of my characters shouldn`t be able to do this?

Thanks, for any thoughts.
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby gejyspa » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:48 pm

My opinion has always been that cantr "grams" must be a lot more massive than metric grams. I mean, a day's supply of potatoes (200 grams) has about 140 calories. Even by the end of WWII concentration camp inmates were being fed 600-1000 calories a day. Carrots? even worse, aboput 37 calories of them will sustain a cantrian.

And you can only pick 800 grams of carrots a day by hand? That's only about 11 carrots. Now, either cantrians are notoriously lazy workers, and efficient digesters, or their grams are much more massive than ours, and they therefore are also very strong, since they can carry so much. I prefer the latter explanation.
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby RedQueen.exe » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:37 pm

Or you're overthinking it. There's that possibility. :wink:
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby Piscator » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:13 pm

For me a Cantrian gram is something in the range of half an ounce.

I also have the impression that the unit of density in Cantr is kg/m or kg/m^2 instead of kg/m^3. In other words, an object that is twice as big, doesn't weigh eight times as much as we would expect it, but considerably less.
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby RedQueen.exe » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:54 pm

Maybe the grams are exactly the same, but cantrarians are proportionately smaller, so they gather less, eat less, etc... :shock:

But that means their measurements of length would have to be different then, so that a Cantrarian foot, inch, or meter is shorter than ours, bringing us right back where we started. Drat!
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby Vega » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:18 pm

Or maybe it's only a matter of concept. Maybe this "carrots" are not carrots but "something-called-carrot-but-feeding-more-than-real-carrots"
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby Polt86 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:53 pm

I think the items that I find the most strange in terms of weight are logs. A large log only weights 500 grams, which, in real world weight, is the size of a fairly small stick. Definitely not the weight of something you would build a ship's mast out of.
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby viktor » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:51 am

cantriians, are not necessarily humans. often there is a misconception that this are souly human avatars, no they are not necessarily humans, they could be different species, mutations even if they will. the cantriian creature could be very different than humans in the sensory department.
dolphins use sonar, bats echo-location(even a few humans), some creatures have refined enough senses to make very minute measurements (even humans, experienced tradesmen can tell the gage of sheet metal by touch)
in general most people can tell on any day which way is north, east, south, west, more experienced adventurers may have their skills honed down to a few degrees
so, it's not a far streach at all for our chars to have keen enough senses to weigh out grams or tell direction (some RP number of items instead of grams and just accept that 1 apple weighs the same as one chunk of limestone and trade their 1 apple for 10 chunks of limestone)
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby mojomuppet » Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:36 am

Vega wrote:
mojomuppet wrote:Your char spawns at twenty, they are not morons. I play anything in the wiki as common knowledge. I do get caught however some char saying what is this....I ignore it. My chars know weight, most trade values, and what they need to survive. If I have to teach you stuff I know you can see in the wiki too, you are suffering from me teaching your towns history... :wink:


But that's not fair... I'm sure you haven't read all languages wikis... You can't know how difficult is for a new player to find how to make anything. More difficult if you are not playing at your language. Names are so different. And not. Spanish wiki don't tell you all...


How can you say I cant know how difficult it is? I did not invent Cantr therefore I learned same as you. I couldnt get anyone to teach me how to sail, most trade values I had to figure out myself, and one of my best Cantr buddies is responsible for almost every death Ive had. What I dont want to do is teach you what a carrot is, trade with you if you cant do at least some of the math, or answer if I say something like good gods only to hear what's a god? I do understand things like rope and cloth, rigging a ship are hard to wrap your head around. Those kinds of things are what chars might need help with. There are chars that will rp teaching every single thing, mine just arent one of them.

Also I suggest if you arent playing in your language group make a char in your language to learn the game. That seems simple enough. If we dont have your group, then it just makes the game harder for you and your pushing for that anyway or you would be playing games in your native language.

Cantr is not suppose to be easy! They change it, make new rules, send you a pm saying HEY DONT DO THAT! If you figured it out in the first month or six you would be off to something else and you would be playing games with someone else and not us! We want you to suffer, cuss, cry, throw your coffee cup. Then when your done with that...laugh, play, and tell your friends you took over a whole town last night while they were watching some rerun of the Simpsons.
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Re: How does everyone know how much everything weighs....

Postby Vega » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:26 pm

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