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Re: Characters that irritate you/yours -

Postby Marian » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:41 pm

Missy wrote:Then also understand that some people are reading your proper grammar and spelling and typing and saying to themselves right at this very moment, "I wish I could write like that," and are probably formulating what it is to be great like you, as we speak. Imagine if they had only known your posts here though, that you are so willing to shun them even though somewhere in their mind they might like to try and write like you, and now they see what you really think of them. How encouraging! Not!

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Fact is, the player I spoke to last night? I asked him, "What would you do if you accidently typed /me in cantr and people took you less seriously for it?" He said, "Take them less seriously." So think about that.


I would be annoyed if someone did that constantly, or used emoticons or chatspeak all the time though, and if they think less of me then so be it. But we're not talking about accidental typos or slip-ups here, I mean everybody does that now and then. We're talking about consistently doing the same thing over and over and over again until I can't draw any other conclusion than that they simply don't care and aren't trying. I know I've been bitching about it a lot here but I'm not a grammar nazi by any means, there are lots of characters I really like that commonly have issues with punctuation or whatever and don't always capitalize everything, but it doesn't matter because they're still understandable and at least put forth the effort to play an interesting character.

But there's a line where it's just too much to wade through and becomes disruptive to RP, and the people I've been complaining about consistently do that. I mean, even if they're legitimately new and thought Cantr was a much more casual kind of RP, but now there's no way they can not notice how differently they're posting than everyone around them, and again, it doesn't take some special skill or ability to glance over what you write for two seconds before you hit the talk to all button, so I'm sorry but I'm never going to consider that an excuse. You either care enough to do it or you don't.

And maybe I am contributing to a lynch mob, but we can't vent in game, so this thread is all we have. :)
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Re: Characters that irritate you/yours -

Postby Chris » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:42 pm

I am annoyed by newspawns who have opinions on complex matters that require knowledge gained over time. For example:

"I've always disliked sycophants who didn't have the gumption to throw some bigotry into the mix."

This guy spawned about an hour ago. He has met a handful of people. That someone is or isn't a sycophant was complete hearsay. Another newspawn in the same place had a long, detailed philosophy of how to live life and lead a town. Yeah, right.

It's one thing to spawn with natural expertise in digging or tool making. However, no mere mortal should spring fully armed from the head of Zeus.
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Postby Marian » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:50 pm

Chris wrote:I am annoyed by newspawns who have opinions on complex matters that require knowledge gained over time. For example:

"I've always disliked sycophants who didn't have the gumption to throw some bigotry into the mix."

This guy spawned about an hour ago. He has met a handful of people. That someone is or isn't a sycophant was complete hearsay. Another newspawn in the same place had a long, detailed philosophy of how to live life and lead a town. Yeah, right.

It's one thing to spawn with natural expertise in digging or tool making. However, no mere mortal should spring fully armed from the head of Zeus.


Ahahaha, this too. I've seen this several times, most memorably a newspawn not an hour old making a long philosophical speech about life and death at a funeral of a person they never even met, unfortunately my character didn't have the personality type to call him on his BS.
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Postby SekoETC » Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:06 pm

A bit off-topic but unless lol is a word in some language Cantr is played in, it could be filtered to *laughs* as they do in Puzzle Pirates (well, actually they also turn it into an emote so there are no asterisks). This would allow people who have a hard time typing to use shorthands without annoying everyone else. Likewise :) could translate to *smiles* and :( to *frowns*. There has been a suggestion of international emotes but it seems more natural to type short things than select emotes from a dropdown list. It would be even cooler if there was /me / /em that would get rid of the pesky X says: "*emote*"

And maybe if a post contains the word "online", or "game", and not "OOC" or a common alternative to that, it could give some sort of a warning of "are you sure this is an IC message?" with options "yes", "no" and "what does IC mean?" It could be limited to new players, although it might be difficult to define new.

I think I've always been a cautious roleplayer, I don't write things unless I feel 100% confident about them so sometimes I may take half an hour writing and rewriting an emote (maybe not so much anymore, but certainly did back when I started). I first encountered emoting in Racewarkingdoms, (I've told this story many times) and in the beginning I just watched a group of dark elves play their elaborate schemes that even involved two of them swapping bodies due to a spell. (I never learned if they swapped accounts or if they were playing each other's characters in the body of their own.) I was totally in love with the leading character, whose name started with M, but I can't remember what the name was since I only wrote about them in my diary or equivalent using the initial, so that if someone else would read it, they'd never know who it was about. I never dared to play with those people, I concidered them far superior to myself. But later I started some rp during quiet time and some guy joined in, so we decided to continue next time. He didn't show up so I continued as solo and made a pretty interesting story. Then the site was down for a while, so I found my way into a Finnish rp chat room, where I was lightly fooling around during daytime when serious players weren't around, but once I went there later in the evening, and my nick had *drow* in it, someone pm'ed me that if you can't put more than one sentence in a starting post then you don't deserve to play a drow. I was pretty shocked, she had seen too many Drizzt clones and was having a bad day, but she sort of became a mentor to me, and for a long time I didn't dare to play anything, I just watched how the others were doing it, but then I started playing, mostly solo, sometimes short arranged meetings. I don't think I was very good at interactive play at the time, since I wanted to lead the plot too much and didn't like it when the other player took it in a direction I hadn't originally thought about. Again when I started Cantr, first I just watched, and the first rp I saw was a mud fight in Pak. First time I participated rp, I felt obliged to notify people in the end that I was going offline / to sleep (can't remember which one I used) but I found it impolite to just disappear, not knowing that in Cantr it's standard to just leave, in order not to break the immersion. If I have emotes that aren't a full sentence, I may start them with a lowercase letter because it would be wrong to capitalize it when it's not a sentence, but often I find myself adding He/She in the beginning, and a period in the end, so it becomes a sentence after all.
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Re: Characters that irritate you/yours -

Postby Ryaga » Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:10 pm

Hehe just realized someone mentioned one of mine a few pages back. :wink:

At least it wasn't from the player's pov.
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Postby gejyspa » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:14 pm

Ya wanna know what character annoys my character? That one, right over there. *points* I can't say any more without revealing more than I want to about who I play, so nanny-nany-boo-boo.

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Postby Armulus Satchula » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:27 pm

All my characters bother me and the player is a jerk.
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Postby Rebma » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:36 pm

Armulus Satchula wrote:All my characters bother me and the player is a jerk.

Agree'd yo.
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Re: Characters that irritate you/yours -

Postby Joshuamonkey » Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:05 am

how would you feel if, in the middle of Macbeth, or Jane Eyre, someone goes "*sighs* Gah I'm so boerd!

Then it would be more like a society simulator. :P

One of my characters became involved with a character who uses consistently bad grammar, as well as being fairly annoying and extremely active. However, this character does add valuable role play, and I'm glad my character accepted him. :) Sometimes it's hard to tell if they're being annoying on purpose, though it does seem so.
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Re: Characters that irritate you/yours -

Postby Comy » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:41 am

Characters that abuse ellipses. What... did the ellipses.. ever do.... to you?.. (I'm looking at you, Lexi Mal, Jessa Fox, Jinxy Jones, etc)
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Postby curious » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:14 am

Comy wrote:Characters that abuse ellipses. What... did the ellipses.. ever do.... to you?.. (I'm looking at you, Lexi Mal, Jessa Fox, Jinxy Jones, etc)

Do yo mean the ellipsis? A series of three marks in a text?
They indicate a pause, as well as a textual omission, and I... rather like them when they are used. I think they can add a useful inflection to text that when read is meant to sound like speech.
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Re: Characters that irritate you/yours -

Postby Piscator » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:36 am

I rather like ellipses, too. Very useful to indicate a pause or hesitation. Or do... you only have... a problem with their ab...use...?
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Re: Characters that irritate you/yours -

Postby Arenti » Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:16 pm

I also use them...... sometimes. Indeed it shows hesitation or difficulty saying something.
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Postby SekoETC » Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:46 pm

It would be one thing if it was used for one character to create them a unique style of writing, but when they all sound alike, it's obvious that it's just the player's style of writing and they're doing it without thinking. In one hand it does sound sincere and expressive but with all the ellipses and misspelled words and other stuff, it sounds like it was just typed out in a hurry and they never thought about reading it through before hitting enter. If you use the large box, you can see more of your text without having to scroll.

Oh yeah and one thing Arenti does occasionally. Is put periods in weird places. To start sentences that should actually be subordinate clauses. I find that somewhat irritating.
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Postby Arenti » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:14 pm

:mrgreen: I do that to get into this thread. Yes I reached my objective! Though I'm getting better in that.
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