Any Legacy remaining?

[Surly]

This thread is so very nostalgic... just like all threads from 6 years ago, it's been hijacked by the KDS region... and turns inevitably to a post from Jon!

[nitefyre]

This thread is so very nostalgic... just like all threads from 6 years ago, it's been hijacked by the KDS region... and turns inevitably to a post from Jon!

good times good times always have to return to the ol' stomping grounds. & it's over 7 years now haha

my first characters were in Naron (Lad Empire) and there so I guess it's only natural that's where my fondest memories would be

bee tee dubs, someone did a great job managing to post a Wikipedia article on Cantr...(despite... http://webzine.cantr.net/e107_plugins/c ... ontent.107)

[Joshuamonkey]

Hey, thanks for that link! I didn't know a lot of what's in that article (I should probably take another look at the Webzine articles). I put Cantr's Wikipedia article back up after a bunch of editing. There was already quite a nice article for me to start with saved in Junesun's user page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Junesun/Cantr_II Note: This is what it looked like right when I resurrected the article.). The English wiki seems harsher with deleting than the other languages. So far it isn't been deleted since I put it up, but what I had trouble with was convincing them that I had permission to use the Cantr logo image.

[ShadowWolf]

Cantr Freak Nick never wanted to take over the lands. He saw Iron mountain, to dorian, to baaak, to the central hills as the clans. All of his old notes claimed it as theirs and he felt the same. Even if those living there did not. No interest in taking over other towns (including Krif) I believe it was Makior that wanted to take over Krif. Nick was just interested in his form of justice for Krifs attack (and murder) on a Governor. He also made sure the clans allies with them did not take over. He was willing to help rebuild but not rule. Nick cared for the Clan and that was it. Snape died for using and hurting Lady of the Clan, who actually did order Nick to torture him and to make it last....I killed him quickly by mistake. They gathered an army to kill Nick, or tried, and the Clan decided it was an act of war. You remember as well as I that Nick wasn't looking to start wars he sat in the Tavern working until Darlina sent him to kill or accompany her, other the others during their time. It was one of you that brought him out when Snape came back.

Val was soft and forgiving. Laws where not upheld, criminals walked free, crime increased. She asked Nick to bring back the old ways and he returned to killing those that broke the laws. Crime almost stopped. She gave Nick permission to move on Krif after the murder and he STILL gave Ari a chance to meet with Val before he struck. Nick had more of a rep than he actually earned. Half the crap he heard about was false but believed. Most of his worst "crimes" where the orders from Darlina, Val, Lizz.

Makior tried talking him into taking that position after Darlina. Lizz and Makior tried forcing him and he said the Clan did not need someone like him in charge. He would see her wishes upheld, and was willing to leave the Clan which the group of you came after him and talked him into coming home.

Nick took that position because...Makior couldn't do it. You went behind your brother and sisters backs, and you died after fooling around with his wife.

Nick decided on two options in the end, destroy everyone on the island so our enemy's could not hide, or leave. Only way he could see it to keep everyone safe. Everyone made the decision to leave with him. Clan started growing fast on omeo and then I left

[CantrFreak]

Hm, yeah I remember a lot of that. But I do remember specifically Jen (or whoever the girl was) telling me Nick had put a man in Djorf or some other town. And a lot of other stuff. And Nick never did oppose Makior's idea's of uniting the lands (even though I do remember Nick wanting the same thing). Mmh, interesting. But yeah, Nick did always get the bad rep regardless.

And ah, I remember Makior supporting Nick to be the Clan Chief. He only did it because Nick technically was the next in line, and Makior was a staunch traditionalist, or something like that. He knew a good bit about the MacGregor lore than most did. Course, to be honest, Makior was contemplating overthrowing Nick because, towards the end, Makior began to dissaprove of Nick's methods. While Makior was a nice fellow in general, when it came to politics Makior preferred to place more emphasis on negotiation and deals rather than outright warfare (which was his attempt to keep in line with the Ludh ah Curaih). But I certainly don't remember him going behind the other's back. Of course, I know as a player Makior did fool around with Nick's wife, of course Makior didn't really see it like that. :p

[ShadowWolf]

few things near the end Makior did that made sure few where against Nick going after Makior. The more info that came out about people talking with Makior. But I don't have the notes anymore, and I did spend more time drunk than sober back then. The Clan was never the same after Darlina... I rather enjoyed starting fights over spending so much time hunting people down. Every time someone was given another chance and allowed to walk away after striking a lion or MacGregor another "army" gathered to stop us. Don't know why they wanted to stop us, at the time we rarely left OUR lands besides to help out with pirates, in which case we moved quickly in force to do everything possible to help. Laws clearly stated in our lands. They broke them knowing the punishment was death, then allowed to live and so they want to come after us for it?

[_Slayer]

Was this the same Darlina that spawned in (Krif Hills West???).

[MakeBeliever]

Yes was the same Darlina MacGregor, formally known as Darlina Espy ...And it was Darlina MacGregor who got the apology from Caillou Short concerning Gregor MacGregor amid the times Caillou was cap in hand asking for help to breath life into Krif. Cailou Short was actually going to lead Krif as a MacGregor affiliate till it all went sour and the talk of murder came out, Cailou decided to kill off Subman and another councillor as things wasn't moving quick enough for him and nearly let it slip to the Union of MacGregor plans and current work of land amassing back to their clan as they believed it was theirs anyway.
And then the fun of the trials kicked off nearly sparking a war when Eve and Darlina clashed.

[nitefyre]

And then the fun of the trials kicked off nearly sparking a war when Eve and Darlina clashed.

haha wow good thing neither John nor Angus were around for this.

[Missy]

Oh there you have it. That does sound more right, now. But I still remember this conversation with Angus for some reason.

[CantrFreak]

It's a shame all this was lost, the Clan right now is kinda blah. /: It's disappointing to be honest.

[Surly]

The clans (MacGregor, Stone, Blackrock) have been on dubious ground since skills removed equality. Do you say no to a weak char who is a great RPer, good for the clan but not strong enough for the hard line they take? Accept the strong char who does little except practice hitting and drag criminals around?

On a legacy issue... I liked hearing about the Lenai alliance. I don't know if there's much to it, but Lupus would be happy to know that people named something after something he named on his map.

[Marian]

This might be a little off topic for the All MacGregor, All the Time thread, but since we're talking about history in general, does anyone know anything about a character named Breanne in Siom around the 2000s?

One of my chars just found possibly the most epic account of murder, betrayal, and dramawhoring of all time. She already has plans for it IC, but I'm kind of curious about the whole situation OOCly now as well.

[CantrFreak]

Ha, Breanne, wow. That's a way back. I played Mattio Skylar, involved in the whole mess with the Nationalist Party of Zuzi. She really was a backstabbing type of person, though I can't remember if I lived to see her die or not.

[DylPickle]

That is way back... I can't remember which of my characters dealt with her there. Either my journalist character or my "mercenary". Dandy.