The Dead Character Thread

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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby notsure » Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:58 pm

R.I.P. all the dead in the Dory massacre, including:

Zara Jayne Gaspillage
Sneezy Bottoms
and many others

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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby Rumaan » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:36 pm

I played Pluto Wincek. Pluto was killed in a coup three or four days before the massacres at Xanth and Dory. There are no details. He was dragged into a building when he was asleep and killed by Noah and his cronies, in I guess a span of few minutes with zero rp. Though, overall I think Noah executed it well. He used the power of silence to make Pluto blink first.

I don't know if it can be discussed here yet but I very much want to know if the others survived at the shores. I, however, don't have much hopes given the way Delphia was killed before Pluto.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby Illey » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:33 pm

Rumaan wrote:I played Pluto Wincek. Pluto was killed in a coup three or four days before the massacres at Xanth and Dory. There are no details. He was dragged into a building when he was asleep and killed by Noah and his cronies, in I guess a span of few minutes with zero rp. Though, overall I think Noah executed it well. He used the power of silence to make Pluto blink first.

I don't know if it can be discussed here yet but I very much want to know if the others survived at the shores. I, however, don't have much hopes given the way Delphia was killed before Pluto.

Why did Noah kill Pluto? I thought he was one of the best citizens in the eye of Noah.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby Doug R. » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:10 pm

From what I read of the events, Pluto became a thorn in Noah's side because he had the audacity to start thinking for himself.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby Keegan Ingrassia » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:33 pm

From talking to Noah's player, I heard that he was killed because Noah considered Pluto forging that treaty with New Xanth, Dory, and Klojt to be "conspiring with the enemy". Ergo, Noah doesn't honor the treaty that Pluto, as a representative of the Republic, made.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby SekoETC » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:53 pm

And again everybody needs to remember not to use that information in-game. It could be guessed that was the reason, but for example most people don't even know in-game that Pluto is dead.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby Rumaan » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:13 pm

Keegan Ingrassia wrote:From talking to Noah's player, I heard that he was killed because Noah considered Pluto forging that treaty with New Xanth, Dory, and Klojt to be "conspiring with the enemy". Ergo, Noah doesn't honor the treaty that Pluto, as a representative of the Republic, made.


That is the lamest thing I have heard. I am not surprised that Yugo is trying to justify Noah's massacres in Xanth and Dory but I am surprised that you believed it and posted it here.

I can think of many reasons why Noah killed Pluto but this is not one of them. Doug's is closer but that is not the complete picture either. If what some other players told me is true the first seeds were sown when Pluto was away on his visit to Klojt. As for the timing, I think Noah sensed Pluto was going to arrest him soon, so he struck first.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby Addicted » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:26 am

Rumaan wrote:
Keegan Ingrassia wrote:From talking to Noah's player, I heard that he was killed because Noah considered Pluto forging that treaty with New Xanth, Dory, and Klojt to be "conspiring with the enemy". Ergo, Noah doesn't honor the treaty that Pluto, as a representative of the Republic, made.


That is the lamest thing I have heard. I am not surprised that Yugo is trying to justify Noah's massacres in Xanth and Dory but I am surprised that you believed it and posted it here.

I can think of many reasons why Noah killed Pluto but this is not one of them. Doug's is closer but that is not the complete picture either. If what some other players told me is true the first seeds were sown when Pluto was away on his visit to Klojt. As for the timing, I think Noah sensed Pluto was going to arrest him soon, so he struck first.


You are all wrong. Delphia so knew why Pluto was killed. Noah had a big ego and he couldn't take being sworn at by Pluto before he left to go to Klojt. It was simply payback. Oh and the fact that Pluto would be suspiscous of how Delphia died made him a risk. It does seem it was all Delphia's fault. :cry:

Of course the plot against him didn't help either. That was Pluto's fault.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby Rumaan » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:26 am

Addicted wrote:
Rumaan wrote:
Keegan Ingrassia wrote:From talking to Noah's player, I heard that he was killed because Noah considered Pluto forging that treaty with New Xanth, Dory, and Klojt to be "conspiring with the enemy". Ergo, Noah doesn't honor the treaty that Pluto, as a representative of the Republic, made.


That is the lamest thing I have heard. I am not surprised that Yugo is trying to justify Noah's massacres in Xanth and Dory but I am surprised that you believed it and posted it here.

I can think of many reasons why Noah killed Pluto but this is not one of them. Doug's is closer but that is not the complete picture either. If what some other players told me is true the first seeds were sown when Pluto was away on his visit to Klojt. As for the timing, I think Noah sensed Pluto was going to arrest him soon, so he struck first.


You are all wrong. Delphia so knew why Pluto was killed. Noah had a big ego and he couldn't take being sworn at by Pluto before he left to go to Klojt. It was simply payback. Oh and the fact that Pluto would be suspiscous of how Delphia died made him a risk. It does seem it was all Delphia's fault. :cry:

Of course the plot against him didn't help either. That was Pluto's fault.


Oh, here I was enjoying my fifteen minutes of fame, enjoying my char being represented as someone important and you crash it all with the truth.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby SumBum » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:02 am

Rumaan wrote:
Addicted wrote:
Rumaan wrote:
Keegan Ingrassia wrote:From talking to Noah's player, I heard that he was killed because Noah considered Pluto forging that treaty with New Xanth, Dory, and Klojt to be "conspiring with the enemy". Ergo, Noah doesn't honor the treaty that Pluto, as a representative of the Republic, made.


That is the lamest thing I have heard. I am not surprised that Yugo is trying to justify Noah's massacres in Xanth and Dory but I am surprised that you believed it and posted it here.

I can think of many reasons why Noah killed Pluto but this is not one of them. Doug's is closer but that is not the complete picture either. If what some other players told me is true the first seeds were sown when Pluto was away on his visit to Klojt. As for the timing, I think Noah sensed Pluto was going to arrest him soon, so he struck first.


You are all wrong. Delphia so knew why Pluto was killed. Noah had a big ego and he couldn't take being sworn at by Pluto before he left to go to Klojt. It was simply payback. Oh and the fact that Pluto would be suspiscous of how Delphia died made him a risk. It does seem it was all Delphia's fault. :cry:

Of course the plot against him didn't help either. That was Pluto's fault.


Oh, here I was enjoying my fifteen minutes of fame, enjoying my char being represented as someone important and you crash it all with the truth.



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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby Keegan Ingrassia » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:16 am

I didn't say I believed it, Rumaan. I just said that's what I was told by Noah's player. ;)

And Pluto was a viciously vexing individual to debate with.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby McManus » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:50 am

Poor dead people in dory.... Lots of good people dead.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby SekoETC » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:47 pm

Well it seems like it must've had something to do with the treaty... Their strategy just relied heavily on using tea and when they ran out, they didn't want to risk it anymore.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby caged_bird_sings » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:51 pm

I'm also reading on here to try and figure out why Xanth was attacked....unfortunately I still have no idea why, seeing as in game my char never heard anything about any sort of treaty at all - unless somehow I missed that. What was this supposed treaty about? I honestly have no clue.
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Re: The Dead Character Thread

Postby SekoETC » Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:28 pm

After the Emeralds kidnapped people from Plaekur Forest West, some people from there apparently contacted Xanth asking for help, and Heian came to Klojt asking for support. I think about half a dozen people were ready to help at a short notice. They were going to Seatown Hills to meet up with someone, but just before arriving there they received a radio message that their contact had been killed, so they figured it was too dangerous and turned back. When Pluto came to Klojt, after finding some Klojt coins and wanting to learn about the bank system, he said, he noticed the news note advising travelers to avoid the Plaekur region due to hostilities. He wanted to ensure people that the Republic was no bogeyman and that PFW had only been targeted because people there were breaking into Republican buildings and the leaders were supposedly lying to their subjects and planning to violently break away from the Republic, since they didn't even consider themselves to be part of the republic. At this point he also heard about that joint operative Xanth and Klojt had been trying to arrange. He wanted to establish peaceful relations, and Coventina also figured that it would be beneficial to Klojt if they could start trading with the Republic regularly since they had the ability to produce far more stuff than what the locals could consume and in the other hand there was often a shortage of raw materials. But she figured that it would be unfair towards Xanth to establish trade relations with the Republic if they were still considered enemies, so she called Heian in for negotiations and since they had some sort of a trade relationship with Dory, she also called in Rutho Dergon as a representative of Dory. After a while they were able to agree on a treaty that they wouldn't initiate hostilities towards each other and any party breaching the treaty could be engaged at will by the others. I can't seem to find a copy of it now but it said initiate hostilities rather than attack or use violence since it was supposed to leave room for retaliation. And the attackers used that loophole by claiming to have proof of Xanth planning an attack on the Republic. However, technically it wouldn't cover a preemptive strike. I don't think making plans would count as initiating hostilities, and I don't believe plans were made either. It would be easy to forge event logs or what ever was used if everybody involved in them was dead and couldn't speak for their own behalf.
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