When Cantr is down

[Cdls]

I'm in the process of getting every proffesional 3d software program I can get my hands on. I will find one I can work out how to use!

Have you tried Poser?

http://poser.smithmicro.com/

Haven't used it in a long, long time, but a few years back, I screwed around with a trial version and was impressed.

[CrashBlizz]

Yeah, got poser pro 2010 and daz 3D Advanded at the moment.

I'll soon have:

Maya 2009
Softimage xsi Advanced
Carrara Pro 7
Vue 8
Cinema 4D 9.5
V-Ray Render
3Ds Max


I figure that should do me.

[Cdls]

Very nice, how do you like poser pro 2010?

I have been holding off since I am in no way going to spend that much for something to just play around with (although it is a lot of fun) but with my student discount, I can get it for under $200, which is a better deal imo.

All I have to say is I hope you are finding good deals on those programs, cause they are insanely priced!

[Doug R.]

@ all the open-source proponents:

How would Jos retain control and integrity over the game? If 36 programmers were making their own mods to the game, how could they conceivably be checked? What if people make revisions that no one likes? Seems like a lot more work for Jos, not less. Maybe I don't understand the concept correctly?

[Ryaga]

@ all the open-source proponents:

How would Jos retain control and integrity over the game? If 36 programmers were making their own mods to the game, how could they conceivably be checked? What if people make revisions that no one likes? Seems like a lot more work for Jos, not less. Maybe I don't understand the concept correctly?

When you release the source what happens is:

You have your repository this is the 'master' repository.
Joe Blow comes along and creates a branch.
Joe Blow finishes his branch and submits it to be merged with the master repository.
You decide to put it in or not.

That's how it works. It actually works really well, and usually you only have a small core team with control over the master repository. Ofc someone can make a version better than yours but GNU requires him or her to release the source when the output or binaries are given out. So you could just merge their better version back to the master repository.

[Doug R.]

So someone does have to review the code and approve it. That would be the largest bottleneck in this process, to the point where I would think it wouldn't be an improvement. Checking other's code might be the most boring thing in the world, and no one's going to want to do that without getting paid. I fall asleep reading other's scientific papers and that's part of my paid job. I suppose having draconian submission guidelines could weed out all but the most die-hard coders, but still.

[CrashBlizz]

Very nice, how do you like poser pro 2010?

I have been holding off since I am in no way going to spend that much for something to just play around with (although it is a lot of fun) but with my student discount, I can get it for under $200, which is a better deal imo.

All I have to say is I hope you are finding good deals on those programs, cause they are insanely priced!

They're all on The Pirate Bay. Not that I mind paying for programs or anything, but when they do a sensible price then I'll do a purchase.

Poser 2010 is ok but its the first one I've used and only just installed Daz 3D, not run it. I'm not really sure what I'm doing apart from thowing things together out of the library (and not very successfully at that). I'm sure its great because of all the options and tabs and buttons and.... that are all linked and inter-connecting. Full customization is perfect for people who know what they're doing. Its very complicated for beginners like me though.

[Pirate Lass]

When I first started out I found DAZ 3D's interface a quicker learn than Poser, however you get more control and refinement, plus many more advanced options that DAZ 3D doesn't offer.

However for those just wanting to start playing I highly reccomend DAZ 3d - because well - it's FREE. LOL Well at least for the program and your basic models/content.

[Ryaga]

So someone does have to review the code and approve it. That would be the largest bottleneck in this process, to the point where I would think it wouldn't be an improvement. Checking other's code might be the most boring thing in the world, and no one's going to want to do that without getting paid. I fall asleep reading other's scientific papers and that's part of my paid job. I suppose having draconian submission guidelines could weed out all but the most die-hard coders, but still.

It works for every other open source project. Really, you don't have to review, you just look through the code a bit make sure everything looks alright, and then test locally. Then you should just be able to quickly merge the 2 files. That's a lot faster than implementing it yourself, even for small fixes it's probably 3-4x faster than doing the fix yourself.

[NaruShadow]

Not even Rigel is that pathetic...unless it IS Rigel.



Nah, he's be boasting about it somewhere. I think it's the Chinese Military. The individualism expressed by Cantr characters is a threat to their way of life.

You're joking right? Rigel can't even spell words correctly, much less hack Cantr. He doesn't even understand basic computer terms.

On another note, this idea will probably get shot down, but perhaps the fastest way to solve our mystery hacker problem would be to deploy a hacker of our own. I'm sure whoever did this isn't the only Cantr player with hacking skills and, unless he's taking time to read everything we type on here (which he very well might be), I somehow doubt he/she would expect a retaliation like this.

[Armulus Satchula]

Yeah, got poser pro 2010 and daz 3D Advanded at the moment.

I'll soon have:

Maya 2009
Softimage xsi Advanced
Carrara Pro 7
Vue 8
Cinema 4D 9.5
V-Ray Render
3Ds Max


I figure that should do me.

Blender might be free and open source, but it can do some really professional things.

[berserk9779]

As the virtual hunt for the hacker goes on, I think that the modus operandi doesn't have much to say.

It seems to me that the attacks were aimed at creating FUD and have Cantr shut down for a few days.

There aren't many games like cantr, but some I know has had a relevant increase in the playerbase in the last 2 weeks. (I am not going to be more specific, as this is an idea, not an accusation)

[NaruShadow]

Makes sense, I'm still kinda partial to the theory that this is just some newbie hacker testing out his new skills, seeing what they can do. And they probably picked cantr because they were banned for some reason, or because they'd played it once before and figured it was somewhere they could get away with causing a little chaos.

[berserk9779]

It works for every other open source project. Really, you don't have to review, you just look through the code a bit make sure everything looks alright, and then test locally. Then you should just be able to quickly merge the 2 files. That's a lot faster than implementing it yourself, even for small fixes it's probably 3-4x faster than doing the fix yourself.

Cantr development is not big enough to profit from an Open Source project.
As it is, it seems like more resources go into maintenance than development. But that may be just my impression

[HFrance]

One can not underestimate the value (including commercial) of this intelligent, successful and . .. free ... creation - as Cantr II.