What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby EchoMan » Wed May 19, 2010 12:39 pm

I think you need to make fertilizer first.
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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby Arenti » Wed May 19, 2010 12:50 pm

EchoMan wrote:I think you need to make fertilizer first.


Yes, but that can't be made without dung right? So if you want people to use Gardens maybe you should add something to replace dung in the use of gardens as it's not something thats available that much.
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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby Doug R. » Wed May 19, 2010 12:52 pm

You can use grass also, which should be added to all appropriate locations, imo.
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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby Arenti » Wed May 19, 2010 12:54 pm

Doug R. wrote:You can use grass also, which should be added to all appropriate locations, imo.


Ah okay. Gardens can only be used in grasslands right? Though that has been a while ago since I noticed. (a few years actually) As I can't check at the moment I might be wrong but Karnon Fields is a grassland. But a long time ago I couldn't make a garden there.
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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby redRob » Wed May 19, 2010 1:02 pm

Doug R. wrote:That's why you'd use a garden instead. Window boxes are a convenience item, not a practical means to bulk production


Love that you'll be able to use grass instead of dung.....I'm pretty sure I remember reading that herb gardens can only be built in grasslands and plains....I'd like to see that extended to hills....There are ~many~ countries with very little farmland and they utilize hillsides for agriculture...

Can't seem to log into Cantr or the Wiki today, so I might be wrong....*shrug* Either way, I think anywhere but mountains should support them....
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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby Arenti » Wed May 19, 2010 1:03 pm

redRob wrote:
Doug R. wrote:That's why you'd use a garden instead. Window boxes are a convenience item, not a practical means to bulk production


Love that you'll be able to use grass instead of dung.....I'm pretty sure I remember reading that herb gardens can only be built in grasslands and plains....I'd like to see that extended to hills....There are ~many~ countries with very little farmland and they utilize hillsides for agriculture...

Can't seem to log into Cantr or the Wiki today, so I might be wrong....*shrug* Either way, I think anywhere but mountains should support them....


If grass gets more available and all islands with grasslands then I think Gardens will indeed be used more often.
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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby EchoMan » Wed May 19, 2010 1:22 pm

redRob wrote:Either way, I think anywhere but mountains should support them....

Deserts? Swamps? Forests?
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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby Arenti » Wed May 19, 2010 1:26 pm

EchoMan wrote:
redRob wrote:Either way, I think anywhere but mountains should support them....

Deserts? Swamps? Forests?


I don't think he thought of that. Though on what islands are swamps? I never had a char in one or even travel through one.
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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby EchoMan » Wed May 19, 2010 1:30 pm

Arenti wrote:Though on what islands are swamps? I never had a char in one or even travel through one.

Cantr Island has... Reniov Swamp, and ... another one by Cantr Lake I think. Must be more out there.
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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby Arenti » Wed May 19, 2010 1:32 pm

EchoMan wrote:
Arenti wrote:Though on what islands are swamps? I never had a char in one or even travel through one.

Cantr Island has... Reniov Swamp, and ... another one by Cantr Lake I think. Must be more out there.


Ah that might explain it. I never had much chars on this island. Come to think of it, I never had much chars on other islands except treefeather.
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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby EchoMan » Wed May 19, 2010 1:41 pm

Arenti wrote:Ah that might explain it. I never had much chars on this island. Come to think of it, I never had much chars on other islands except treefeather.

Treefeather = Pok, right? I always get these different names mixed up. :)
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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby Arenti » Wed May 19, 2010 1:54 pm

EchoMan wrote:
Arenti wrote:Ah that might explain it. I never had much chars on this island. Come to think of it, I never had much chars on other islands except treefeather.

Treefeather = Pok, right? I always get these different names mixed up. :)


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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby Piscator » Wed May 19, 2010 2:01 pm

Gardens are as effective as windowboxes, but two thirds of the water are replaced with fertilizer. More ways to get fertilizer would be a good idea in my opinion (incinerating bones for example) as long as it is about as effective as the other ways. Giving grass to grassland would be a good thing, too.

Making gardens available to other area types will have to wait until we have an easy way to e.g. increase the water demand in deserts or reduce the growing speed in mountains without having to create a seperate object (and the related 20 projects) for every region. In the meantime, just use the windowboxes. Getting the additional water takes about as long as making the fertilizer, so there's not really much difference.
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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby Doug R. » Wed May 19, 2010 2:07 pm

Piscator wrote:Gardens are as effective as windowboxes, but two thirds of the water are replaced with fertilizer.


Are you certain? I can grow a heck of a lot more herbs in the garden as I can with a window box in the same amount of time.
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Re: What's happened to the earthenware windowboxes?

Postby Arenti » Wed May 19, 2010 2:11 pm

Doug R. wrote:
Piscator wrote:Gardens are as effective as windowboxes, but two thirds of the water are replaced with fertilizer.


Are you certain? I can grow a heck of a lot more herbs in the garden as I can with a window box in the same amount of time.


So that might be what is stopping people from using gardens more.
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