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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby Arenti » Tue May 18, 2010 1:30 pm

Doug R. wrote:When I started playing, I read all the relevant sections of the wiki and forum before I even spawned my first character, then promptly got irritated by the crappy laws in the town and started pushing for reform. Yea, I was the -other- kind of irritating newspawn. :)


I'm afraid I am one of those people who do not read much of how to play the game and just spawn a char. My first char had only one name because that was the name I used for games, Arenti.
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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby SekoETC » Tue May 18, 2010 2:36 pm

Both of my initial two characters had only one name. I think last names are overrated, or it depends on the location. If you spawn in some town where the state of the art weapon is a bone spear, it seems funny that people have modern names when the environment is clearly primitive.
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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby Doug R. » Tue May 18, 2010 3:12 pm

I stopped using last names, since I think it's a bit OOC. If there are two Sams, then people could distinguish them as Sam from Klojt or something such as that. Eventually it could just be Sam Klojt. That's how last names started irl, so I think it's more pure to do it that way in Cantr. However, I'm not gonna look down my nose at the vast majority that pick last names, it's just what I prefer to do.
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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby Alladinsane » Tue May 18, 2010 7:57 pm

I usually give my characters last names, but rarely use them IC due to the 'air of familiarity' of most communications. There can be a ton of 'bobs' for instance and the last name would only come into play when more than one 'bob' is active in a location. Then 'Bob Smith' might be distinguished from 'Bob Jones'. Of course, nicknames could also create distinctions.

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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby Arenti » Wed May 19, 2010 10:05 am

If it's that way my first char did went okay with his name. As he later added a last name when he got married. Though she died but he still uses it.
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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby returner » Wed May 19, 2010 12:31 pm

Doug, generally first names are common and that's why last names are an easy solution to differentiating between characters. Your idea of last names developing themselves is self-defeating, as you failed to include the most important element of the evolution of last names: families. Families were the ones who carried last names and we don't have this in Cantr, so it's a bit silly to hope for a last-name evolution like you described.
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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby Arenti » Wed May 19, 2010 12:32 pm

Doesn't it say somewhere that you have to use a first and last name? At least I believe I read that somewhere when I started playing.
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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby Doug R. » Wed May 19, 2010 12:37 pm

Returner, there are plenty of families in Cantr. I know of at least 6 (and that's likely half of what's out there). Just because 99% of all characters are not influential enough to propagate their last name doesn't invalidate my statement.
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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby Arenti » Wed May 19, 2010 12:51 pm

Doug R. wrote:Returner, there are plenty of families in Cantr. I know of at least 6 (and that's likely half of what's out there). Just because 99% of all characters are not influential enough to propagate their last name doesn't invalidate my statement.


I agree there are several families of which people who belong to that use the last name of that family.
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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby returner » Wed May 19, 2010 1:41 pm

Normally I couldn't care less but this is just for the sake of discussion/debate and alleviating our boredom..

Doug R. wrote:Returner, there are plenty of families in Cantr. I know of at least 6 (and that's likely half of what's out there). Just because 99% of all characters are not influential enough to propagate their last name doesn't invalidate my statement.


"That's how last names started irl, so I think it's more pure to do it that way in Cantr."

Let's break this sentence down. The first part is a statement, and the second is a suggestion PREMISED entirely on the validity of mentioned statement. We can agree on that.

The statement is correct, that's how they 'started'. But you need to include how they 'continued' and that was through families. So you can't say that's a more pure way to do it in Cantr because it is two fold - start, and continue, and you lack the second part.

Yes. There are families in Cantr.. but Cantr doesn't have a family system and if you're going to say last names are OOC, then so are families and marriage. My point is, unless families are introduced, you cannot have a non-OOC system of last names as you need both the 'initiator' or 'start', and the 'carrier', or 'continuer'.



To clarify, it doesn't invalidate your idea but your statement is invalid for the purpose of the following suggestion.
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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby returner » Wed May 19, 2010 1:44 pm

Also, I disagree with you when you say last names are OOC. Why aren't first names OOC? First names are made up by players. Last names are made up by players. In real life, yes, last names are family names. But in real life, first names are decided by the parents, not the child, so technically first names are OOC too.
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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby Doug R. » Wed May 19, 2010 2:14 pm

returner wrote:Normally I couldn't care less but this is just for the sake of discussion/debate and alleviating our boredom..


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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby returner » Wed May 19, 2010 2:16 pm

YAY!

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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby Rebma » Wed May 19, 2010 3:02 pm

You only won because no one wants to listen to your crap, and have everything they say crappily and shoddily broken down, and misinterpreted to the extreme.

Anyways.

Back on Topic. My character is irritated by Turnip. *Shakes fist* STOP THAT.
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Re: Characters that irritate yours -

Postby randognsac » Wed May 19, 2010 4:21 pm

Damn lawyers with their confusing language!

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