Implied vs. Explicit

[AlchemicRaker]

I think he sees it as a game with an overlayed chat interface or something, where you just explain the game mechanics you use
(2:30:02 AM) Natso: rather than RP'ing, and using the interface as a backbone for supply & demand, that sort of stuff.

Am I right, Dudel?

- Natso

[Dudel]

Yes.

[EchoMan]

Cantrians ARE HUMAN.

[returner]

You had good points Dudel and I found myself 'agreeing' towards the end of the post, but the start I vehemently disagree with.

You said "an implied player makes you susceptible to CRB infractions of the most asinine reports", which basically means, "if you play like Dudel, you're susceptible to CR breaches, no matter how petty". Yes. This is a role-playing game. And like most role-playing games, there are general rules. You must abide by them, otherwise I could just say 'Alright Dudel, your character is now dead, because mine killed yours'.

There has to be rules, and it just so happens that Cantr's are as they are, even if you don't like it.


At the end of the day, there are these facts:
1) The Cantr world is a version of the Real world
2) Cantrians are Humans

Universally, the Game Admins and Players alike agree on this. The majority, at least. And those two points are why we are here, and how we base our characters.

If you try getting 'minimal' and breaking it down, saying 'You can't prove anything exists', then you're doomed to fail. There is no point playing unless there is a set of rules and understanding.





Finally, you agreed with Natso's comments. This is a RPG, Role-Playing Game. You 'PRETEND' (like an actor) to be your character.. UNLIKE a chat interface with additional mechanics.


If you would like, we can ask the Game Admins to EXPLICITLY state every single detail of hte Cantr world. (Yes, there's a sun. Yes, they are human. Yes, sand is real. Yes, buildings exist. Yes, there is really water. Yes, there is day and night. Yes, they have hands and legs. Yes, this, that, this, that, EVERY SINGLE DETAIL).

For us to win this argument, Dudel, is that what we have to do? Explicitly state every single detail of Cantr which you disagree exists?

[AlchemicRaker]

Oh come on, returner, stop instigating in this thread.

[returner]

In no way am I instigating this thread, Natso. I am just trying to make the key parts of my point extremely clear to Dudel. I like to think I know how Dudel reads my posts, so I try to highlight the important part of it for him to read.

We are on good terms now and he knows I'm not instigating anything. I'm simply trying to fully appreciate and understand his perspective.

I find your comment to be somewhat offensive and shallow.

[Doug R.]

Oh come on, returner, stop instigating in this thread.

You're still reading this thread? I stopped 2-3 pages back.

[Arenti]

Oh come on, returner, stop instigating in this thread.

You're still reading this thread? I stopped 2-3 pages back.

LOL This is the first post I actually read.

[AlchemicRaker]

Oh come on, returner, stop instigating in this thread.

You're still reading this thread? I stopped 2-3 pages back.

Oh really?

Stopped reading about a page back, but still skimming. Was in IRC with Dudel yesterday but he dropped out when he rebooted...

[Snake_byte]

Cantrians ARE HUMAN.

No, Cantrians are a, HUMAN-LIKE, animal of their own. Human commonly refers to the species Homo sapiens a name given to we from planet Earth. "Humans" can only be found here on earth.

Besides, you also said what they are in the same statement: Cantrian.
Rules and mechanics state that they are 'human-oid' (resembling human). Which would be us.

So, they are like us, but not us.

[EchoMan]

Cantrians ARE HUMAN. Canadians ARE HUMAN too. There is nothing in the game description that startes Cantrians are not human. Assuming Jos haven't been to other universes, we must conclude that he's based the game on his experience as an earthling (as I have previously stated), thus Cantrians ARE HUMAN. Cantr IS EARTH, just an Earth that after Pangea got it's continents mixed up a little different to what we see today IRL.

I really enjoy this Dudelish style of using all caps to say I AM RIGHT no matter what everyone else thinks.

[Snake_byte]

But Cantr is not Earth:

1) I've not seen any of these islands in existence on Earth.
2) Cantr is shaped like a doughnut (a ring doughnut) not spherical.
3) Earth has a moon as well as a sun.
4) Been years since I've seen night rped, therefore, there may even be a possibility of Cantr having two suns.
5) Canadians are human because their are Homo-sapiens found on earth.

Not Earth therefore not Human but very human-like.

Edit: Oh and Humans are not known to pop out of thin air to reproduce...

[CantrFreak]

I say we're basically humanlike.
And that we just change the enviroment to suit our RP needs as long as its not too sudden or drastic.

[EchoMan]

I believe all your points are answered with what has already been said in the thread: That's because of game mechanics and programming limitations, that make Cantr humans and planet differ somewhat from the IRL humans and the planet Earth. Your first point I already addressed additionally in the post you answered to.

[FiziKx]

There is nothing in the game description that startes Cantrians are not human.

Oh my god... I just realized something.


Cantrians are not human. Nay, nor are they beast or any living thing for that matter.

In fact, based upon previously gained knowledge, I have concluded that Cantrians are actually
Little LEGO Men!!!

Think about it for a moment, and you'll know that I'm correct.

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Ok, that's long enough for thinking.

So, since all Cantrians are LEGO people, technically:
1. We are not green, white, black, brown, red, or etcetera. We are YELLOW
2. We can heal ourselves by replacing our body parts whenever we feel we need to, thus, this is represented by the eating of healing foods to quickly rejuvenate health.
3. When we cantrians die, our items are scattered about. Think- ever see a little video of the lego people? Ever notice when they die their body parts scatter around, with their possessions everywhere? Exactly.
-This also accounts for the bug that happened (happens?) where sometimes when someone dies, their corpse will (would) seemingly magically turn into 2 separate entities. Again, the LEGO peoples' bodies' torsos broke from the LEGO peoples' bodies' legs.
4. It should almost always be daytime in Cantrland. (Srsly, who plays with LEGOs at night?)
5. Furniture is a luxury because most people don't take the time to situate their LEGO men in chairs and the like.
6. Most citizens of a town probably stay in the same place (which they mostly do) Its no fun to do anything with LEGOs when all of the little people are not being made to interact with each other by the player.
7. Animals exist, and they all should be ridable. Go ahead, roleplay as a warthog wrastler and tamer.
8. Bugs DO exist as well, but those suckers are way too damn huge for my liking. They're all about the size of each LEGO person's (Cantrian's) head, and, to boot, they're either pitch black or an odd, glowing green color.
9. You should be able pretend to have any item, as long as you roleplay making them with the real resources that would be needed. (Making a weird little gun with generic LEGO blocks. Its been done)

and last...

10. We have no lockable containers. Nuff said.
(Of course, the list could definitely be made much longer than it is)

So... amirite, or amirite? Any thoughts, questions, or comments, contact me on this forum topic.