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[Marian]

So better RPed clones ARE actually okay? O.o

I don't see why not. (Even though that's not what Seko said in the first place and you're just setting up straw men like usual...) You could start 15 characters with the same basic personality, and if they were RPed well, or at all, they would become different based on their surroundings. That's not the same as a single-note gimmick repeated over and over for every char.

I rarely start mine with any specific quirks or beliefs at all, actually, but that doesn't mean they're 'clones'. I just personally think it makes more sense to let them develop naturally.

[returner]

So better RPed clones ARE actually okay? O.o

I don't see why not. (Even though that's not what Seko said in the first place and you're just setting up straw men like usual...) You could start 15 characters with the same basic personality, and if they were RPed well, or at all, they would become different based on their surroundings. That's not the same as a single-note gimmick repeated over and over for every char.

I rarely start mine with any specific quirks or beliefs at all, actually, but that doesn't mean they're 'clones'. I just personally think it makes more sense to let them develop naturally.

Agreed / seconded!

[Dudel]

So better RPed clones ARE actually okay? O.o

I don't see why not. (Even though that's not what Seko said in the first place and you're just setting up straw men like usual...) You could start 15 characters with the same basic personality, and if they were RPed well, or at all, they would become different based on their surroundings. That's not the same as a single-note gimmick repeated over and over for every char.

I rarely start mine with any specific quirks or beliefs at all, actually, but that doesn't mean they're 'clones'. I just personally think it makes more sense to let them develop naturally.

That is not what I was talking about, at all. That is slowly building your character to be different but anyone who plays this game for more than a few months will start seeing staple players with very typical responses and actions.

They are exactly the same as several others and only change based on name. They are character that most people have little trouble dealing with and only because the player "writes well" and knows how to emote. You might like these characters but they are INDEED exact clones (And I wanna name names so bad but that'd be bad form). I find this fundamentally wrong and punishing someone for similar behavior simply because they write bad is an elitist attitude.

It comes down to the fact that this player spoke OOC without addressing OOC and typed bad... that's it. The first is technically against the CR, last I remember, but the second I HIGHLY DOUBT.

He broke the "picture book view" of Cantr and people got pissy. I can GUARANTEE you that if this player typed "as well as the rest of us" if not better and removed the "meow" not a single one of you would complain if his characters were all the same.... or notice!

Story end.

[EchoMan]

Yeah you're safe for now Dudel-

[Rebma]

I'm glad to see Cantr staff is above the bit in the forum where we've been asked not to flame people.

[returner]

I'm glad to see Cantr staff is above the bit in the forum where we've been asked not to flame people.

Is that sarcasm? If so, could you show me a quote in this thread where Cantr staff have 'flamed' someone? I had a quick look and only found civil responses..

[Rebma]

The part where Echo inferred Dudel had clone characters, knowing it would be offensive to him. It's not that hard to see, read it over.

[returner]

The part where Echo inferred Dudel had clone characters, knowing it would be offensive to him. It's not that hard to see, read it over.

Ah, I forget Echo is a staff member

[Dudel]

Yeah you're safe for now Dudel-

It comes down to the fact that this player spoke OOC without addressing OOC and typed bad... that's it. The first is technically against the CR, last I remember, but the second I HIGHLY DOUBT.

He broke the "picture book view" of Cantr and people got pissy. I can GUARANTEE you that if this player typed "as well as the rest of us" if not better and removed the "meow" not a single one of you would complain if his characters were all the same.... or notice!

Story end.

[Doug R.]

.... or notice!

This is really the most important part of it right here. People can't report clones if they don't notice.

[randognsac]

I think I'm one of these clone people! Oh no! I got to change things up now! Or wait, would that be a CRB also Should I kill off all my characters now? This sucks!

[SekoETC]

A lot of characters are clones by mentality. As long as you give them a different appearance and maybe a unique accent, no one's going to notice the similarities in their personalities or gestures.

[Rand]

There is no writing level in Cantr, and its actually on a very low level. Try to go into PbP RPing after playing Cantr and see what "level" you are accepted on. For most of us here, that would be along the lines of "Beginner".

i no! ic no difrense n ppls rp, seko ur just hating!

not teh guy but guys bff (a snippet anyway, the real thing was much longer, and the people he was talking to have been removed...but don't worry, none of it made any sense in context either)

2892-1: NAME REMOVED (a man in his twenties) says: "i like this place"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "pls don't make me go"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "* i say crying* i go crying to the man in his thirtys"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "* i say crying)"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "would you like me to leave its your decision"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "what are talking about he attacked me first"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "thats why i attacked you"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "ive been nothing but nice and you attack me"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "kill what is that going to do"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "Why ????????????????"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "* face starts turning red from anger)"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "i trying to make things better for every one. I think he deserved to die but not in this way. this is my belief"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "plus if i was the same character why would i drag myself???????"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "why would i lie to you"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "Just spare me please"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "no im so sorry please dont kill me"

(Here some ELITIST SNOB whispers to him, probably about his 'level' or roleplaying and the CRB)

2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "That is all iknow about it"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "well we go to the same school and he shows me his profile"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "no it means please"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "that is frustrating"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "I don't want you to kill him. why not just send him to jail"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "pls don't kill him"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "well he is in the pantry probably if you don't know"

Yeah this isn't disruptive at all.

I love reading through this an seeing something familiar, but then to be call an elitist snob not cool. Not cool. lol

The cat guy is really disruptive to IC communities, but its not really that dispruptive to RP. So i say let the in game communities deal with inncidents like that. Jail him or execute him.

[Dudel]

There is no writing level in Cantr, and its actually on a very low level. Try to go into PbP RPing after playing Cantr and see what "level" you are accepted on. For most of us here, that would be along the lines of "Beginner".

i no! ic no difrense n ppls rp, seko ur just hating!

not teh guy but guys bff (a snippet anyway, the real thing was much longer, and the people he was talking to have been removed...but don't worry, none of it made any sense in context either)

2892-1: NAME REMOVED (a man in his twenties) says: "i like this place"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "pls don't make me go"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "* i say crying* i go crying to the man in his thirtys"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "* i say crying)"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "would you like me to leave its your decision"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "what are talking about he attacked me first"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "thats why i attacked you"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "ive been nothing but nice and you attack me"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "kill what is that going to do"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "Why ????????????????"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "* face starts turning red from anger)"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "i trying to make things better for every one. I think he deserved to die but not in this way. this is my belief"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "plus if i was the same character why would i drag myself???????"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "why would i lie to you"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "Just spare me please"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "no im so sorry please dont kill me"

(Here some ELITIST SNOB whispers to him, probably about his 'level' or roleplaying and the CRB)

2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "That is all iknow about it"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "well we go to the same school and he shows me his profile"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "no it means please"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "that is frustrating"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "I don't want you to kill him. why not just send him to jail"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "pls don't kill him"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "well he is in the pantry probably if you don't know"

Yeah this isn't disruptive at all.

I love reading through this an seeing something familiar, but then to be call an elitist snob not cool. Not cool. lol

The cat guy is really disruptive to IC communities, but its not really that dispruptive to RP. So i say let the in game communities deal with inncidents like that. Jail him or execute him.

Fixed that quote mess you made.

But the OOC is bad form. The typing, not so much.. and the cat guy.. not sure how that's even disruptive to the community. Isn't a random thief or pirate more disruptive than an active citizen? O.o

[Rand]

that's my point exactly. You treat the cat guy like anyone else, jail him or cut him up in pieces. not much to it really...