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[Piscator]

I think that was just a fictional example.

[returner]

It was, sorry Doug. I was replying to Seko's post about a chatbox.


Anyway, turns out this guy is legitimate.. but his account on Cantr is already banned! lol!

[randognsac]

Forum Defenders Unite! That'll teach him or her!

[SekoETC]

I doubt he got banned, just locked. I don't think he means any harm, he just hasn't figured out what level of writing is generally appreciated in Cantr although it should be apparent from observing how other people write.

[Dudel]

I doubt he got banned, just locked. I don't think he means any harm, he just hasn't figured out what level of writing is generally appreciated in Cantr although it should be apparent from observing how other people write.

That, is a VERY funny statement, Seko. Nothing against you but the "level of writing [which] is generally appreciated in Cantr" is just... really.

I mean, even the meowing guy isn't ACTUALLY breaking any rules. It might annoy some of us in our little boxes but he's NOT doing anything wrong.

There is no writing level in Cantr, and its actually on a very low level. Try to go into PbP RPing after playing Cantr and see what "level" you are accepted on. For most of us here, that would be along the lines of "Beginner".

With writing its about painting a picture but with Cantr its about getting your point across. In fact people who "paint the picture" usually get yelled at for one reason or another. "There are no <blank>. Cantr doesn't have <blank>." etc and so forth.

If his account was locked I hope it was because he was being destructive on a CRB level and nothing of this nature which you implied as that would honestly annoy me as a player and make me ponder what type of agenda the GAC has compared to their assumed neutral one.

[Doug R.]

I mean, even the meowing guy isn't ACTUALLY breaking any rules. It might annoy some of us in our little boxes but he's NOT doing anything wrong.

Actually, you're quite wrong. The CR is clear that all characters need to be unique individuals. Having one meowing character is not a breach of the CR. Having more than one is.

[Marian]

There is no writing level in Cantr, and its actually on a very low level. Try to go into PbP RPing after playing Cantr and see what "level" you are accepted on. For most of us here, that would be along the lines of "Beginner".

i no! ic no difrense n ppls rp, seko ur just hating!

not teh guy but guys bff (a snippet anyway, the real thing was much longer, and the people he was talking to have been removed...but don't worry, none of it made any sense in context either)

2892-1: NAME REMOVED (a man in his twenties) says: "i like this place"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "pls don't make me go"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "* i say crying* i go crying to the man in his thirtys"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "* i say crying)"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "would you like me to leave its your decision"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "what are talking about he attacked me first"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "thats why i attacked you"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "ive been nothing but nice and you attack me"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "kill what is that going to do"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "Why ????????????????"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "* face starts turning red from anger)"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "i trying to make things better for every one. I think he deserved to die but not in this way. this is my belief"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "plus if i was the same character why would i drag myself???????"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "why would i lie to you"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "Just spare me please"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "no im so sorry please dont kill me"

(Here some ELITIST SNOB whispers to him, probably about his 'level' or roleplaying and the CRB)

2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "That is all iknow about it"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "well we go to the same school and he shows me his profile"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "no it means please"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "that is frustrating"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "I don't want you to kill him. why not just send him to jail"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "pls don't kill him"
2892-1: (a man in his twenties) says: "well he is in the pantry probably if you don't know"

Yeah this isn't disruptive at all.

[Piscator]

I mean, even the meowing guy isn't ACTUALLY breaking any rules. It might annoy some of us in our little boxes but he's NOT doing anything wrong.

Actually, you're quite wrong. The CR is clear that all characters need to be unique individuals. Having one meowing character is not a breach of the CR. Having more than one is.

This is a pretty odd interpretation. Chars have to be separate individuals, not unique ones. What I mean is, as long as they don't know of each other and share the same thoughts, it doesn't really matter if they behave like a bunch of clones.

[SekoETC]

One might argue that people shouldn't know what a cat is, at least not on regions that don't have ocelots (or tigers or lions). Meowing is one thing but saying you're an ambassador of a forest of cats is another thing. Other characters could only think the guy is nuts or he has a very wild imagination, but they wouldn't know what a cat is, they might just draw the connection that cats are like a crazy guy that says meow. And Cantrians certainly shouldn't have a tail since they're human. Unless they're just imagining they have one or have made one out of fur. It would be more imaginative to imagine you're an animal that's actually native to your spawning location. It would be much funnier if someone imagined they were a cow and tried to chew grass, than a talking cat. But this is a bit of a wrong topic for this since gasaway claims that the meow guy is just played by someone who goes to the same school and not him, but I guess for most players it wouldn't matter if they were two separate players or one player with two accounts, because both of them are annoying. I do feel some sympathy because he seems so clueless but if he can't learn to use a spellchecker then I'm going to continue ignoring his characters. Cantr is not a chatroom, I don't want to see someone going "hi", "hi", "hi" every time he wakes up, asking "r u there?" if someone stops replying for a while and overall not sounding like a developed character but an extension of a clueless player. It breaks the immersion for me.

[Dudel]

I mean, even the meowing guy isn't ACTUALLY breaking any rules. It might annoy some of us in our little boxes but he's NOT doing anything wrong.

Actually, you're quite wrong. The CR is clear that all characters need to be unique individuals. Having one meowing character is not a breach of the CR. Having more than one is.

This is a pretty odd interpretation. Chars have to be separate individuals, not unique ones. What I mean is, as long as they don't know of each other and share the same thoughts, it doesn't really matter if they behave like a bunch of clones.

Exactly! Otherwise a few "staple Cantr players" should have their accounts locked RIGHT THE FK NOW. Just saying.

And the OOC stuff is another story. This is something which should be looked into, however the spelling, grammar and shitty emoting are not the case. I mean... we let Shadowwolf and yugo play. (Come on, you love it.) Capitalize your damn "I", damn that annoys me.


Note that Cantr doesn't HAVE any immersion. It can't as most of the interface and game itself runs on first person OOC notes. That's not immersion! "You see, yet can not actually respond to <blank>" yeah... epic.

ALSO: There are a few "staple Cantr players" who's behaviors annoy me to all hell and you don't hear me say anything (for the most part). I mean... I could start ripping people (that's plural, meaning more than one) with their noise.

[Doug R.]

I mean, even the meowing guy isn't ACTUALLY breaking any rules. It might annoy some of us in our little boxes but he's NOT doing anything wrong.

Actually, you're quite wrong. The CR is clear that all characters need to be unique individuals. Having one meowing character is not a breach of the CR. Having more than one is.

This is a pretty odd interpretation. Chars have to be separate individuals, not unique ones. What I mean is, as long as they don't know of each other and share the same thoughts, it doesn't really matter if they behave like a bunch of clones.

I have multiple years of precedent in favor of my interpretation.

What people seem to fail to realize is that the CR and the PD have almost exactly the same relationship as the US Constitution the Supreme Court. The CR is the law, and the PD interprets the CR. The PD's interpretations are what we live by, not the CR itself. Just like precedent has immense power in the judicial system, so does it have immense power in Cantr as well. Clones have never been allowed.

[Piscator]

Well, that's not really an argument. Just because something has always been done in a certain way, it doesn't mean its the right way. Generally speaking. I guess though that in most cases an inability to play unique characters does coincide with an inability to play separate characters.

[Dudel]

Clones have never been allowed.

You either don't play the same game I am playing or have fabricated a lie. Perhaps it is simply that "better RPed clones" are more okay than not so well RPed clones? I'm asking an ignorant question cause I could drop forum member names who have clone character behavior who are still active within the game and no accounts are locked to my knowledge.

You can ask Seko how easily character behavior is copy-pasted among certain players AND CAUGHT. I've told her of this a few times. Really if this is the PDs stance, Dough... than a lot, lot, LOT, LOT of people need be looked into, at least one of which on PD. :O

In fact, every English character should be looked into as I've not seen an original character in 6-9 months!

[SekoETC]

The thing is even though people might have mannerisms they repeat on several if not all of their characters, I wouldn't call the characters clones. Maybe because those characters form their own social networks and become part of the local or areal society rather than just being a quirky character that everybody ignores, because even if you interacted with a character like that, he wouldn't reveal or develop any more depth of character.

[Dudel]

So better RPed clones ARE actually okay? O.o