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Tempered steel

Postby Mack » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:27 pm

I was just thinking about all the locks out there, and how some chars can snap them with ease while others can try for days. I thought maybe if there were different options for locks. The common Iron lock, the Steel lock, and the Tempered steel lock.

Making Tempered steel would have many benefits. It could be used to make better weapons, stronger, and wear less. But to make the tempered steel, you would have to work at it. You would need to heat the steel, then cool it quickly in water. and repeat the process. The outcome would be tempered steel. Much stronger. Crowbars could be made of this that would allow even the unluckiest char to pop and iron lock. But if the lock is made out Tempered steel and the crowbar is not. . . have fun. If both are made of the tempered steel then it would be much the same as now.

Point of this would be to make a stronger steel to work in the game. Cars, buidlings could call for it too.
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Postby Piscator » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:38 pm

I don't think we need another type of steel, especially since tempering could be simulated by using regular steel and an increased build time.

Different kinds of locks and lockpicks have been suggested many times before and I really think it would benefit the game.
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Postby Zisrith » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:55 pm

I like this idea as well
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Postby Mack » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:10 am

Piscator wrote:I don't think we need another type of steel, especially since tempering could be simulated by using regular steel and an increased build time.

Different kinds of locks and lockpicks have been suggested many times before and I really think it would benefit the game.


Just heating steel wont temper it. It has to be cooled real fast and then heated again. But the point really was to make a stronger steel that took more effort to make, Could even make the char have to have a leather apron
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Postby Piscator » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:44 am

That's what I meant, longer build time by heating and cooling it. Still uses the same steel though. You would also have to temper the steel when the item is nearly finished, so you wouldn't be able to stockpile tempered steel.

Besides that issue, I don't think we need stronger steel. A lock could as well be made from regular steel (instead of iron) and adding duplicate versions of regular steel weapons with slightly increased properties seems kind of pointless.
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Postby Snake_byte » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:21 am

Piscator wrote:Different kinds of locks and lockpicks have been suggested many times before and I really think it would benefit the game.

Besides that issue, I don't think we need stronger steel. A lock could as well be made from regular steel (instead of iron)


What about steel locks -as well- to be twice as resistant as iron locks...

Implement lockpick sets made of steel to -unlock- doors and the crowbar to -break- them, like a screwdriver to an opened lock would make it more interesting...

Increase production of crowbar to 450-500g of steel and put the lockpicks at 215g. Move the -breaking a lock- project to one worth a solid time and make the -Picking a lock- project with lockpicks, one of chance like the crowbar is now but with less...
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Postby Piscator » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:40 am

Let us talk about the details when it is technically possible to have more than one type of lock and one type of lockpick. Unlocking a door sounds like a good idea and should be implementable, but this's strictly speaking not the right thread for that.
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Postby Mack » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:53 am

but this's strictly speaking not the right thread for that.


Sure it is. It's a thread about tempered steel and it's many uses and lock picks made from tempered steel is a good add on to that. The fact that they are not added IG yet or were suggested many years ago if I remember right has nothing to do with it...it was a suggestion on how tempered steel could be used to make lock picks and IF they were to be added to the game, how a player see's the best way for it to work...That's all. No one said Lets add lock picks.
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Postby Snake_byte » Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:31 am

Sorry Mac, My bad...

I don't really agree with the tempered steel but was commenting on what Piscator said about the lockpicks in general.
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Postby catpurr » Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:29 am

Im with piscatoor as it even makes more sense, you do first alter steel to be like the object you want, and then harden&temper it in its final form, not beforehand.
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Postby Andu » Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:34 am

Water to cool it fast?
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Postby Illidan » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:22 pm

Maybe a way to do gears with steel and increase the difficulty to pick a lock :P

And lockpicks would be magical (and maybe a test per day to hide yourself and your project, and when it's complete you would enter the house without no one seeing you (if you sucess the hide test)
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Postby Crosshair » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:16 pm

No... a hide test is a needless complication to the game. Lock picks are a good idea, and have been suggested many times before... I've always thought it would be a more interesting game if instead of just smashing locks, old joe trader could come back to find his house burgled in a most professional manner. The only hide thing I think should be shown is not having "You see a man in his twenties attempt to pick a lock" I reckon it'd be more useful for people skulking indoors and trying to escape prisons. Definitely should be an invisible item.
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