Me and a friend of mine login into Cantr from the same pc, becuase my internet is faster then his and he is over at my pc alot. I have gotten in trouble many times for this, why? I dont know why, I dont see anything wrong with it. Of coures the PDs all say that I have 2 accounts but I dont! lol, I understand they dont want people cheating but its stupid when they start getting anoying by threating "If you ever login to **** account again you will be kicked out of Cantr" lol
what is everyone else think? do you all agree with the pds? I honestly think its fine to login to cantr from computers that others do
Haveing loging into CantrII from the same PC?
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Anthony Roberts
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Well, you should have notified PlayerDept -before- both of you started using the same computer from Cantr, so that they are aware of the situation.
Secondly, why not just invest in another computer?
Or go to the library? Pffffttttttt. I see nothing wrong with it, honestly, but the PlayerDept has no way of knowing if you're telling the truth or not, really.
Secondly, why not just invest in another computer?
Or go to the library? Pffffttttttt. I see nothing wrong with it, honestly, but the PlayerDept has no way of knowing if you're telling the truth or not, really.-- Anthony Roberts
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Thomas Pickert
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I will put this very bluntly now.
You are only still playing, because I convinced the Game Administration Council that you're only stupid and not that malicious.
I have sent you a very clear message to your account to finally get it in your head that you will be gone on the next slightest rule-breaking, of which you had dozens. No other rule-breaker has ever had the pleasure to experience that much patience from the whole PD, and especially not from me. I believed that we could give it a try with you, because you're relatively young and immature, which can't really be blamed on you.
If your current plan is to try my patience even more, I can just as well stop standing up for you in the GAC. I have no obligation to do that.
Oh sorry, that was probably too complicated. I'll say it clearer.
It had been discussed to finally ban you. I said, let's remove his account and allow him to start fresh. He needs to learn a lesson, but he's not a bad guy.
That is an experiment. I have no special interest to see this experiment succeeding. If it fails, fine, then I know how to treat young fellows like you in the future.
What I sent you in the PM is still valid. If I see any signs of accessing other's accounts from your computer, I will personally declare to the GAC that my experiment with you is a failure. That is not a threat, it is merely a very clear explanation of the consequences.
To give a reason: It's usually of course not forbidden for people to access their accounts from any computer they like. But when a player, like you, has a history of dozens of Capital Rule breaches, then we have to take measures to make sure that doesn't happen again. Thus, it's not allowed for you, nor for your computer, to be used for accounts of others.
You are only still playing, because I convinced the Game Administration Council that you're only stupid and not that malicious.
I have sent you a very clear message to your account to finally get it in your head that you will be gone on the next slightest rule-breaking, of which you had dozens. No other rule-breaker has ever had the pleasure to experience that much patience from the whole PD, and especially not from me. I believed that we could give it a try with you, because you're relatively young and immature, which can't really be blamed on you.
If your current plan is to try my patience even more, I can just as well stop standing up for you in the GAC. I have no obligation to do that.
Oh sorry, that was probably too complicated. I'll say it clearer.
It had been discussed to finally ban you. I said, let's remove his account and allow him to start fresh. He needs to learn a lesson, but he's not a bad guy.
That is an experiment. I have no special interest to see this experiment succeeding. If it fails, fine, then I know how to treat young fellows like you in the future.
What I sent you in the PM is still valid. If I see any signs of accessing other's accounts from your computer, I will personally declare to the GAC that my experiment with you is a failure. That is not a threat, it is merely a very clear explanation of the consequences.
To give a reason: It's usually of course not forbidden for people to access their accounts from any computer they like. But when a player, like you, has a history of dozens of Capital Rule breaches, then we have to take measures to make sure that doesn't happen again. Thus, it's not allowed for you, nor for your computer, to be used for accounts of others.
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Umm somtimes when I'm away at a friends house (not too often) I play cantr on his comp. I'm usually there for the weekend so I don't want to leave my chars alone for 2 or 3 days cuz then ill have A LOT to read. He might be getting an account soon though. If i continue to do this, is it CR breach?
(EDIT) I don't want to get him in trouble or anything
(EDIT) I don't want to get him in trouble or anything
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west
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I've checked my account from many pc's, including my cousin's. (Der Zauberer on the forums)
He plays cantr as well, and we've never gotten in trouble for sharing the same computer.
Probably because we don't break the CR, though..
Also, Anthony, do you really think saying to just invest in another computer is feasible for everyone, especially a young'un? I know I can't afford another one just to check my cantr account. Hell, I can't even afford my phone bill.
He plays cantr as well, and we've never gotten in trouble for sharing the same computer.
Probably because we don't break the CR, though..
Also, Anthony, do you really think saying to just invest in another computer is feasible for everyone, especially a young'un? I know I can't afford another one just to check my cantr account. Hell, I can't even afford my phone bill.
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west wrote:I've checked my account from many pc's, including my cousin's. (Der Zauberer on the forums)
He plays cantr as well, and we've never gotten in trouble for sharing the same computer.
Probably because we don't break the CR, though..
Also, Anthony, do you really think saying to just invest in another computer is feasible for everyone, especially a young'un? I know I can't afford another one just to check my cantr account. Hell, I can't even afford my phone bill.
Not feasable, but still a possibility! I run a Pentium 133 Mhz, trust me, I wish I could afford a new computer
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Let's be clear, different players using the same computer is not prohibited. Only in combination with other rule breaks it will possibly become a problem. You don't want to know how many people try to manipulate Cantr by all kinds of methods. Creating multiple accounts is one of these methods.
The Players Department is doing an incredibly difficult job, trying to stop all these manipulations (and worse). People seem always to forget that Cantr is a free game, run by volunteers. The volunteers that probably spend most of their spare time to Cantr, are the members of the Players Department. They are the most valuable staff members to this game, because they defend the game and the honest players to the people with bad, or at least rule breaking intentions.
The Players Department is famous for it's incredible patience with rule breakers. As Thomas states, for some people in the Game Administration Council, the Players Department sometimes even is too soft to players that are not playing as they should. So when you get new chance after new chance when you are breaking the rules every time again, I would like to say: count your blessings and don't go messing things up using this forum.
The Players Department is doing an incredibly difficult job, trying to stop all these manipulations (and worse). People seem always to forget that Cantr is a free game, run by volunteers. The volunteers that probably spend most of their spare time to Cantr, are the members of the Players Department. They are the most valuable staff members to this game, because they defend the game and the honest players to the people with bad, or at least rule breaking intentions.
The Players Department is famous for it's incredible patience with rule breakers. As Thomas states, for some people in the Game Administration Council, the Players Department sometimes even is too soft to players that are not playing as they should. So when you get new chance after new chance when you are breaking the rules every time again, I would like to say: count your blessings and don't go messing things up using this forum.
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Having more then one person on one computer at one house is not a break of rules... Pirate lass and I live in a house with 4 people, occassionally more... depending on dateing status. 
At one point 4 people in our house were playing Cantr with varying degrees of activity. The PD was made aware of this I believe. Right at the moment only she and I play because other roomies went full time at work, or left or any number of mundane life things.
We have a few friends who play Cantr now too, because we told them about the game. In fact, as I type this, I am logged onto a friends PC at her house. This isnt against the rules either.
BUT, I avoid having multiple charactures in one town, We all avoid interaction of our charactures so that no-one can say we are working together or breaking rules. Plain and simple. IF you dont break rules, the PD wont ban you. How hard is that to understand?
PsPi
At one point 4 people in our house were playing Cantr with varying degrees of activity. The PD was made aware of this I believe. Right at the moment only she and I play because other roomies went full time at work, or left or any number of mundane life things.
We have a few friends who play Cantr now too, because we told them about the game. In fact, as I type this, I am logged onto a friends PC at her house. This isnt against the rules either.
BUT, I avoid having multiple charactures in one town, We all avoid interaction of our charactures so that no-one can say we are working together or breaking rules. Plain and simple. IF you dont break rules, the PD wont ban you. How hard is that to understand?
PsPi
Here I am. BITE ME. or not, in fact, never mind, dont want some wacko taking me up on the offer. Only non wacko's may apply for bite allowance.. no garentee that you will be granted said allowance, but you can try.
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Appleide
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Heh, please dont get mad at me, but i always ask fo every body's names when i reach a town, then ask for food (I run out of food on trips) then try to help others, what if i meet myself one day, can one help the other, well i only help people once, so can my character help the other guy as long as it is like they meet as strangers?
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When you play one character, you should always act as if all other characters are played by complete strangers. If you do that, you'll be fine.
There some additional rules, though, for the PD to make things easier. E.g. more than one char in one organisation or more than two on one location will be frowned upon and might instigate an investigation.
There some additional rules, though, for the PD to make things easier. E.g. more than one char in one organisation or more than two on one location will be frowned upon and might instigate an investigation.
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west
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The PD's always been very reasonable with me. I once had 3 chars in Seatown Forest (for legitimate reasons) and they asked me about it. I explained.
A few weeks later, I got an email asking why my character was traveling with another one with the same (dynamic) last name.
They're married
Props to the PD. You guys rock.
A few weeks later, I got an email asking why my character was traveling with another one with the same (dynamic) last name.
They're married
Props to the PD. You guys rock.
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