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Radio tracers

Postby Doug R. » Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:35 pm

Alright, I admit it, I'm sick and tired of radio flamers. I propose a device be implemented that allow characters to track down the source of a radio signal. The device would actually be three linked devices, carried by three characters, to allow for triangulation. Of course, the devices would only track to the nearest source (even if that source is a repeater as opposed to the actual originating radio).

Still, it would provide a high-tech way for characters to have some fun tracking the flamers that we all hate, and make radio abuse carry some risk.

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Postby *Wiro » Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:37 pm

Sure, good idea. Though, what repeater is picked when there's multiple repeaters?
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Postby Doug R. » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:26 pm

I guess if a signal has multiple sources, it would pick up all of them. You'd have to eliminate them one at a time.
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Postby Andu » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:36 pm

Likesss. :D If ProgD is abel, do it.
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Postby Arenti » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:57 pm

I like this :D
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Postby catpurr » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:01 pm

Will this be a mobile device or a stionary?

If mobile, does it pick up the radio transmission itself also? Or will just be

"You just received some signal on channel 100 from NNW".

How does it work in towns? Will it direct you to the building?

"You just received some signal on channel from [Building].

What if you are in a building?

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Postby Piscator » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:23 pm

I wouldn't make much sense as a stationary device, would it? I think a simple device that gives you a "you pick up a transmission from directio 235" should be enough. You would need to have a vehicle radio to make use of it then.

Anyway, I don't think such a thing would be very helpful. If you're not in range of the original transmitter, all you get would be the positions of the nearest repeaters, without having a chance to find out where the original transmission came from.

Maybe repeaters could provide you with directional data of incoming signals.
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Re: Radio tracers

Postby catpurr » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:02 pm

The device would actually be three linked devices, carried by three characters, to allow for triangulation.


Actually if you have a device that can determine the direction where the signal comes from, you only need 2 receivers to triangulate a sender.


Alternative Suggestion: Make radios report how strong a signal is.

You hear on a radio on channel 7 "Bla". [Strength: 0.4432]

Now alone with the direction you can make a fair guess (at least where the next repeater is), with 3 receivers (in a no repeater condition) you have the exact point.

With repeaters how about this.

You hear on a radio on channel 7 "Bla". [Strength 0.7 Repeated 1 time] Where 0.7 is the distance to the repeater.

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Postby Idriveayugo » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:06 pm

Here's a more simple idea, find rooms with radio transmitters and put locks on em, or just tell people who want to broadcast official business to switch frequencies.

No offense, but this idea seems way too complicated and with repeaters almost everywhere on some continents, this idea will be likely be ineffective at stopping annoying radio transmissions.
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Postby BZR » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:53 pm

Something should be done with it. At least voice recognition.
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Postby Dudel » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:57 pm

Idriveayugo wrote:Here's a more simple idea, find rooms with radio transmitters and put locks on em, or just tell people who want to broadcast official business to switch frequencies.

No offense, but this idea seems way too complicated and with repeaters almost everywhere on some continents, this idea will be likely be ineffective at stopping annoying radio transmissions.


I'm with Yugo on this one.... and I HATE the radio so would rather the thing be 100% removed, "goodies" be damned.
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Postby catpurr » Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:19 am

BZR wrote:Something should be done with it. At least voice recognition.


I think this is a fair suggestion.

You should be able to recognize a voice you heared before. Or if not to tell if its male/female old and young.

You hear /a woman in her thirties/ on the radio: "blah".
You hear /chris/ on the radio: "blah".
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Postby Idriveayugo » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:05 am

How would you know it's a woman in her 30's if you never saw her before? And really, just cuz you met someone before doesn't mean you can recognize their voice, remembering voices is a lot harder than people think.
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Postby tiddy ogg » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:52 am

Cantr radios are primitive. R/l earlier radios of the same technology could only broadcast morse code or similar.
I've always assumed that Cantrian radios are like this, hence you can't tell who's transmitting, and that all Cantrians have learned the code pre-spawning. (or indeed it is some sort of radio teletype machine.
But just like R/L amateur radio, the standard channel, (normally 100 from my experience,) can be used as a "calling channel" and as suggested above, once contact has been made, the interested parties move to a new channel.
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Postby BZR » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:00 am

Idriveayugo wrote:How would you know it's a woman in her 30's if you never saw her before? And really, just cuz you met someone before doesn't mean you can recognize their voice, remembering voices is a lot harder than people think.

Somehow I usually recognize my friends' and family voices, so it can't be so hard.

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