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Postby Litchin_flip » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:32 pm

*Wiro wrote:Oh wow. I was just thinking...it'd be awesome to make a RL movie about Cantr. Like, someone hugging themself, and then someone asks why they're doing that and they're like "I'm dragging myself so pirates can't drag me away." =D


Haha that would be somewhat awesome, though at the same time it would end up being absolutely retarded.
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Postby *Wiro » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:37 pm

And then a scene with a harbour and there's a door right in the middle of it. And they're like "Fuck the door's locked. Let's write a note."

Oh and stepping on a bike to lock it (stole that one from Seko's comics :P)
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Postby Rebma » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:22 am

That could be part of the dare game flash thing thats stil not being made.
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Postby Ryaga » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:32 am

Caesar wrote:
Ryaga wrote:
Rebma19 wrote:
Ryaga wrote:
Diego wrote:i don't believe in drawing lines. all the way or no way.
No offence, but honestly. That sounds artsy, and 'cool' but slap yourself and ask yourself if you want to deal with shit like that man. Philosophy is for people who don't want to handle reality, because no matter how many lines you refuse to draw, or how many sayings you come up with they won't mean a thing. Reality doesn't work that way.


Hey Ryaga? I don't see Diego sitting here telling you you should or shouldn't do something just because it's in his opinion.

May want to take a page outta his book and nose off.
He posted it all in the first place, sorry, but that opens it to others opinions. If you want others to 'nose off' don't tell them about it.


You stated everything you said like a fact, not like an opinion.

You're free to disagree with me. It's not like I determine what's fact or not.
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Postby QueenofBlades » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:33 pm

Arenti wrote:
*Wiro wrote:
QueenofBlades wrote:I'm quitting Cantr.
And [this feels vaguely like a suicide note].
It's just not fun or new anymore.
I'm making the laborious journey back to the real world...I think I see--is that sunlight? I think it may be summer! :shock: Anywho, thought'd I let peoples know. &&bye.


NO YOU FREAKING DON'T. YOU DIDN'T UNSUBSCRIBE DID YOU? RIGHT? :( You are a great roleplayer and you will be greatly missed, really. :(


No she hasn't unsubscribed yet.... But yes it would be very sad to see a great roleplayer go.


Awww, thanks you guys! And no, I'm gonna let my charries go out with a whimper rather than a bang (I'm so super busy--blech normal-person stuff like work and sleeping and food...) so forgive me? I've also hidden a bit of an easter egg somewhere's cheers if you find it. :mrgreen:
And I'll be back, eventually.


Also, Ryaga, I've to yell at you a bit:
Ryaga wrote: No offence, but honestly. That sounds artsy, and 'cool' but slap yourself and ask yourself if you want to deal with shit like that man. Philosophy is for people who don't want to handle reality, because no matter how many lines you refuse to draw, or how many sayings you come up with they won't mean a thing. Reality doesn't work that way.

First of all, you spelled 'offense' wrong. Secondly--I'd like to see where you get off telling anyone about philosophy thank you very much. Philosophy has been studied longer than your white-bread little cracker ass can even conceive so how's about you sit down and shut up and think about this: Philosophy is simply the study of reality at so grand and so minuscule a level the human brain has a hard time understanding it. Hence the reason only smart people do the philosophy thing.
Now, I don't particularly agree with what Diego is doing to himself but that's his choice, his body. That's the way he wants to experience the world.
So how's about you stick that in your black hole and suck it, honey?
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Postby Ryaga » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:01 pm

QueenofBlades wrote:
Arenti wrote:
*Wiro wrote:
QueenofBlades wrote:I'm quitting Cantr.
And [this feels vaguely like a suicide note].
It's just not fun or new anymore.
I'm making the laborious journey back to the real world...I think I see--is that sunlight? I think it may be summer! :shock: Anywho, thought'd I let peoples know. &&bye.


NO YOU FREAKING DON'T. YOU DIDN'T UNSUBSCRIBE DID YOU? RIGHT? :( You are a great roleplayer and you will be greatly missed, really. :(


No she hasn't unsubscribed yet.... But yes it would be very sad to see a great roleplayer go.


Awww, thanks you guys! And no, I'm gonna let my charries go out with a whimper rather than a bang (I'm so super busy--blech normal-person stuff like work and sleeping and food...) so forgive me? I've also hidden a bit of an easter egg somewhere's cheers if you find it. :mrgreen:
And I'll be back, eventually.


Also, Ryaga, I've to yell at you a bit:
Ryaga wrote: No offence, but honestly. That sounds artsy, and 'cool' but slap yourself and ask yourself if you want to deal with shit like that man. Philosophy is for people who don't want to handle reality, because no matter how many lines you refuse to draw, or how many sayings you come up with they won't mean a thing. Reality doesn't work that way.

First of all, you spelled 'offense' wrong. Secondly--I'd like to see where you get off telling anyone about philosophy thank you very much. Philosophy has been studied longer than your white-bread little cracker ass can even conceive so how's about you sit down and shut up and think about this: Philosophy is simply the study of reality at so grand and so minuscule a level the human brain has a hard time understanding it. Hence the reason only smart people do the philosophy thing.
Now, I don't particularly agree with what Diego is doing to himself but that's his choice, his body. That's the way he wants to experience the world.
So how's about you stick that in your black hole and suck it, honey?
:lol: He opened it for public opinion. There's also a philosophy called realism. Y'know, dealing with things practically and like a real person, and that's the only thing that you can apply to life without sounding like a douche. Non-violence is great, I wish it worked. Not having a care in he world is great, I'm sure we all wished it worked. It doesn't.
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Postby Caesar » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:07 pm

Ryaga wrote:
QueenofBlades wrote:
Arenti wrote:
*Wiro wrote:
QueenofBlades wrote:I'm quitting Cantr.
And [this feels vaguely like a suicide note].
It's just not fun or new anymore.
I'm making the laborious journey back to the real world...I think I see--is that sunlight? I think it may be summer! :shock: Anywho, thought'd I let peoples know. &&bye.


NO YOU FREAKING DON'T. YOU DIDN'T UNSUBSCRIBE DID YOU? RIGHT? :( You are a great roleplayer and you will be greatly missed, really. :(


No she hasn't unsubscribed yet.... But yes it would be very sad to see a great roleplayer go.


Awww, thanks you guys! And no, I'm gonna let my charries go out with a whimper rather than a bang (I'm so super busy--blech normal-person stuff like work and sleeping and food...) so forgive me? I've also hidden a bit of an easter egg somewhere's cheers if you find it. :mrgreen:
And I'll be back, eventually.


Also, Ryaga, I've to yell at you a bit:
Ryaga wrote: No offence, but honestly. That sounds artsy, and 'cool' but slap yourself and ask yourself if you want to deal with shit like that man. Philosophy is for people who don't want to handle reality, because no matter how many lines you refuse to draw, or how many sayings you come up with they won't mean a thing. Reality doesn't work that way.

First of all, you spelled 'offense' wrong. Secondly--I'd like to see where you get off telling anyone about philosophy thank you very much. Philosophy has been studied longer than your white-bread little cracker ass can even conceive so how's about you sit down and shut up and think about this: Philosophy is simply the study of reality at so grand and so minuscule a level the human brain has a hard time understanding it. Hence the reason only smart people do the philosophy thing.
Now, I don't particularly agree with what Diego is doing to himself but that's his choice, his body. That's the way he wants to experience the world.
So how's about you stick that in your black hole and suck it, honey?
:lol: He opened it for public opinion. There's also a philosophy called realism. Y'know, dealing with things practically and like a real person, and that's the only thing that you can apply to life without sounding like a douche. Non-violence is great, I wish it worked. Not having a care in he world is great, I'm sure we all wished it worked. It doesn't.


And it doesn't because of people thinking it doesn't.
They think they are realists. But everyone affects 'the real world' by the way he/she acts and thinks.
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Postby Ryaga » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:10 pm

Caesar wrote:
Ryaga wrote:
QueenofBlades wrote:
Arenti wrote:
*Wiro wrote:
QueenofBlades wrote:I'm quitting Cantr.
And [this feels vaguely like a suicide note].
It's just not fun or new anymore.
I'm making the laborious journey back to the real world...I think I see--is that sunlight? I think it may be summer! :shock: Anywho, thought'd I let peoples know. &&bye.


NO YOU FREAKING DON'T. YOU DIDN'T UNSUBSCRIBE DID YOU? RIGHT? :( You are a great roleplayer and you will be greatly missed, really. :(


No she hasn't unsubscribed yet.... But yes it would be very sad to see a great roleplayer go.


Awww, thanks you guys! And no, I'm gonna let my charries go out with a whimper rather than a bang (I'm so super busy--blech normal-person stuff like work and sleeping and food...) so forgive me? I've also hidden a bit of an easter egg somewhere's cheers if you find it. :mrgreen:
And I'll be back, eventually.


Also, Ryaga, I've to yell at you a bit:
Ryaga wrote: No offence, but honestly. That sounds artsy, and 'cool' but slap yourself and ask yourself if you want to deal with shit like that man. Philosophy is for people who don't want to handle reality, because no matter how many lines you refuse to draw, or how many sayings you come up with they won't mean a thing. Reality doesn't work that way.

First of all, you spelled 'offense' wrong. Secondly--I'd like to see where you get off telling anyone about philosophy thank you very much. Philosophy has been studied longer than your white-bread little cracker ass can even conceive so how's about you sit down and shut up and think about this: Philosophy is simply the study of reality at so grand and so minuscule a level the human brain has a hard time understanding it. Hence the reason only smart people do the philosophy thing.
Now, I don't particularly agree with what Diego is doing to himself but that's his choice, his body. That's the way he wants to experience the world.
So how's about you stick that in your black hole and suck it, honey?
:lol: He opened it for public opinion. There's also a philosophy called realism. Y'know, dealing with things practically and like a real person, and that's the only thing that you can apply to life without sounding like a douche. Non-violence is great, I wish it worked. Not having a care in he world is great, I'm sure we all wished it worked. It doesn't.


And it doesn't because of people thinking it doesn't.
They think they are realists. But everyone affects 'the real world' by the way he/she acts and thinks.
They don't work because the world will never see anything the same way. Go to North Korea, and hold a peaceful protest. Then come tell me abo-- Wait you can't because you're in a work camp sentenced to years of hard labor? Thought so.
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Postby Diego » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:33 pm

Ryaga wrote:
Diego wrote:i don't believe in drawing lines. all the way or no way.
No offence, but honestly. That sounds artsy, and 'cool' but slap yourself and ask yourself if you want to deal with shit like that man. Philosophy is for people who don't want to handle reality, because no matter how many lines you refuse to draw, or how many sayings you come up with they won't mean a thing. Reality doesn't work that way.
actually, reality works that way, exclusively. reality isn't relative. things are, or aren't. philosophy is the way in which you handle reality; people who do not philosophize will simply inherit a mixed-and-matched incoherent amalgamate of philosophical notions that will essentially work like dozens of ropes tied to their soul pulling them in different directions and leading them nowhere. philosophy is what gives you direction.

and i'm an absolutist, ergo, i'm firmly convinced that "lines" are hypocrisy. either something is right, or it isn't right. the cult of moral grayness is nothing but mediocrity. i favor experimentation with any and all substances, provided you're not actually, decidedly harming your life. (we risk our lives every day in most activities in some degree, so there are acceptable degrees of risk. and risk, in the end, is just statistic likelihood of harm, and statistics mean nothing to the individual. either you will harm yourself by fucking up, or you won't).

i'm a rational objectivist, kid. i reconcile drug usage with that, and with no contradictions in the process. just be thorough in your research and reasoning.
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Postby Ryaga » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:47 pm

Diego wrote:
Ryaga wrote:
Diego wrote:i don't believe in drawing lines. all the way or no way.
No offence, but honestly. That sounds artsy, and 'cool' but slap yourself and ask yourself if you want to deal with shit like that man. Philosophy is for people who don't want to handle reality, because no matter how many lines you refuse to draw, or how many sayings you come up with they won't mean a thing. Reality doesn't work that way.
actually, reality works that way, exclusively. reality isn't relative. things are, or aren't. philosophy is the way in which you handle reality; people who do not philosophize will simply inherit a mixed-and-matched incoherent amalgamate of philosophical notions that will essentially work like dozens of ropes tied to their soul pulling them in different directions and leading them nowhere. philosophy is what gives you direction.

and i'm an absolutist, ergo, i'm firmly convinced that "lines" are hypocrisy. either something is right, or it isn't right. the cult of moral grayness is nothing but mediocrity. i favor experimentation with any and all substances, provided you're not actually, decidedly harming your life. (we risk our lives every day in most activities in some degree, so there are acceptable degrees of risk. and risk, in the end, is just statistic likelihood of harm, and statistics mean nothing to the individual. either you will harm yourself by fucking up, or you won't).

i'm a rational objectivist, kid. i reconcile drug usage with that, and with no contradictions in the process. just be thorough in your research and reasoning.
Not setting lines on risks and instead letting it lay in a 'grey area' variably is by your own terms hypocritical, then.

You say you experiment with everything you'd like, but what you described isn't close to experimentation.

Grey areas are relative, everyone's got their own ideas of black and white. You're not putting yourself in the grey by defining a line, you're defining your white.
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Postby FiziKx » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:51 pm

Ryaga wrote:
Caesar wrote:
Ryaga wrote:
QueenofBlades wrote:
Arenti wrote:
*Wiro wrote:
QueenofBlades wrote:I'm quitting Cantr.
And [this feels vaguely like a suicide note].
It's just not fun or new anymore.
I'm making the laborious journey back to the real world...I think I see--is that sunlight? I think it may be summer! :shock: Anywho, thought'd I let peoples know. &&bye.


NO YOU FREAKING DON'T. YOU DIDN'T UNSUBSCRIBE DID YOU? RIGHT? :( You are a great roleplayer and you will be greatly missed, really. :(


No she hasn't unsubscribed yet.... But yes it would be very sad to see a great roleplayer go.


Awww, thanks you guys! And no, I'm gonna let my charries go out with a whimper rather than a bang (I'm so super busy--blech normal-person stuff like work and sleeping and food...) so forgive me? I've also hidden a bit of an easter egg somewhere's cheers if you find it. :mrgreen:
And I'll be back, eventually.


Also, Ryaga, I've to yell at you a bit:
Ryaga wrote: No offence, but honestly. That sounds artsy, and 'cool' but slap yourself and ask yourself if you want to deal with shit like that man. Philosophy is for people who don't want to handle reality, because no matter how many lines you refuse to draw, or how many sayings you come up with they won't mean a thing. Reality doesn't work that way.

First of all, you spelled 'offense' wrong. Secondly--I'd like to see where you get off telling anyone about philosophy thank you very much. Philosophy has been studied longer than your white-bread little cracker ass can even conceive so how's about you sit down and shut up and think about this: Philosophy is simply the study of reality at so grand and so minuscule a level the human brain has a hard time understanding it. Hence the reason only smart people do the philosophy thing.
Now, I don't particularly agree with what Diego is doing to himself but that's his choice, his body. That's the way he wants to experience the world.
So how's about you stick that in your black hole and suck it, honey?
:lol: He opened it for public opinion. There's also a philosophy called realism. Y'know, dealing with things practically and like a real person, and that's the only thing that you can apply to life without sounding like a douche. Non-violence is great, I wish it worked. Not having a care in he world is great, I'm sure we all wished it worked. It doesn't.


And it doesn't because of people thinking it doesn't.
They think they are realists. But everyone affects 'the real world' by the way he/she acts and thinks.
They don't work because the world will never see anything the same way. Go to North Korea, and hold a peaceful protest. Then come tell me abo-- Wait you can't because you're in a work camp sentenced to years of hard labor? Thought so.


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Postby Gran » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:53 pm

Ryaga wrote:Non-violence is great, I wish it worked.

What pacifism has to do with all of this?

And more, how come realism influenced approaches to reality won't make you look like a big douche? I mean, just go out preaching that the US should arm themselves to fight against terrorism rather than making healthcare better. Won't make people look very nice to you.

Also, Diego. I do not agree with drug use, but I understand your approach. You do it, but you know it is wrong. You know you harm yourself. Still, you do it because it is your will, and why refrain yourself if you are already wrong? I think that this is perspective which needs a lot of mental strength.

But also, it should be said that by acknowledging you're wrong, you must take the consequences. That means facing all evil that comes with it, knowing you made a choice.
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Postby Ryaga » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:55 pm

GranAttacker wrote:
Ryaga wrote:Non-violence is great, I wish it worked.

What pacifism has to do with all of this?

And more, how come realism influenced approaches to reality won't make you look like a big douche? I mean, just go out preaching that the US should arm themselves to fight against terrorism rather than making healthcare better. Won't make people look very nice to you.

Also, Diego. I do not agree with drug use, but I understand your approach. You do it, but you know it is wrong. You know you harm yourself. Still, you do it because it is your will, and why refrain yourself if you are already wrong? I think that this is perspective which needs a lot of mental strength.

But also, it should be said that by acknowledging you're wrong, you must take the consequences. That means facing all evil that comes with it, knowing you made a choice.

Fighting terrorism isn't a realist view of things, at all, healthcare would be.

It's alot harder to mobilize an army over the lives of a few thousand people than improve the lives of millions more for the same effort.

Edit:
No one dies fighting for healthcare.
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Postby Gran » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:14 pm

Ryaga wrote:
GranAttacker wrote:
Ryaga wrote:Non-violence is great, I wish it worked.

What pacifism has to do with all of this?

And more, how come realism influenced approaches to reality won't make you look like a big douche? I mean, just go out preaching that the US should arm themselves to fight against terrorism rather than making healthcare better. Won't make people look very nice to you.

Also, Diego. I do not agree with drug use, but I understand your approach. You do it, but you know it is wrong. You know you harm yourself. Still, you do it because it is your will, and why refrain yourself if you are already wrong? I think that this is perspective which needs a lot of mental strength.

But also, it should be said that by acknowledging you're wrong, you must take the consequences. That means facing all evil that comes with it, knowing you made a choice.

Fighting terrorism isn't a realist view of things, at all, healthcare would be.

It's alot harder to mobilize an army over the lives of a few thousand people than improve the lives of millions more for the same effort.


Well, that's what political realism is about, that's what I studied in my brief studies of International Relations. It is realist because it is based on the classical realist assumption that the man is inherently evil and greedy, "Homo homini lupus", as stated by Thomas Hobbes. This is very close also to theories of pessimism.

Now that it is stated that everyone is a greedy bastard, it should be wise to protect yourself against them. A realist, at least in the political sense, would choose buying a missile defense system instead of building a new school system. Why?

Just putting it in the realistic way. You build the new schools. But the absence of that missile defense system might give a opportunity to enemies bomb down your country, destroying also the brand new schools. How about that?

Ryaga wrote:It's alot harder to mobilize an army over the lives of a few thousand people than improve the lives of millions more for the same effort.


By extending pragmatism to social spheres, one could argue that it is a waste of money to pay health care for everyone, because some people do not deserve it. If someone has a disease that can not be cured, the taxpayer shouldn't be paying for their health, since it does not guarantees any return.

Considering

So realism isn't douche free in any way.
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Postby Ryaga » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:19 pm

It's alot less realistic to assume an invisible enemy is going to destroy your schools after you've built them than to build them and assume there's no invisible enemy to destroy your schools.

I don't subscribe to some classical view, and I don't think most people do. The world doesn't live off complicated philosophy, people live by being realistic about their problems and doing things that are practical.

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