unwanted content

[Ryaga]

Talking of unwanted content, I have to mention the oversaturated busty broad who keeps on appearing in the ad below Cantr login. Nothing against her or whatever she's advertising, but she makes the entire login process feel dirty. What an inappropriate busty broad, for real.

Lol, just the way you wrote that made me laugh.

[Sunni Daez]

I doubt this is about kids anyway. I know not a single kid who's like "Don't swear, it is bad! ", and even though there are some, it's not that often. It's more the overly sensitive adults that can't handle the roleplaying. And I think the argument of "It is a game!" is invalid. Cantr's not just a game. It's part game, part simulation.

I know many young people who are offended by swearing...

Adults are suppose to set good examples... Is that a bad thing?
If I had joined an adult only RP game , then I wouldn't have a problem with this sort of RP. But I didn't.. so I don't. So, tell your mommy that you are role playing sex in a part game, part simulation "game" on the internet. What would her response be? Would she approve? Pat you on the back? Honestly? (Even being an adult... I don't think I could tell her that)

Part game, part simulation? Whats this suppose to mean. You cannot simulate if you don't 'play the game' Now you say it is 'simulation', but the only time I see anything that describes the fact that Cantians have genitalia in the first place, is when players RP it.

Cantrains are spawned.. not born. Genitailia are for reproductive purposes in real life... so how does that fit into the game? Humans and, I believe dolphins, are the only mammals that have sex for pleasure.. so why would Cantrains? They don't reproduce, so why would you simulate that they had the right parts to do so... read your anatomy book.. they are refered to as reproductive organs, not sex parts.

As players we describe our charris... you'll see that a fair share of cantrians describe them selves as being beautiful/handsome, well built... in all areas... This isn't simulation to real life..

If you RP sex, no matter who you are, you are getting some sort of gratification. Maybe not sexual arousal, but some sort of gratification. It could be strictly for the art of writing.. but still a satisfaction. Just as others are gratified by RPing plans to build their city, form a guard, create a government, build a religion...

As I have said many times before.. in several threads.. Writing is art, and when done properly, romance, foreplay and sex.. can take on a form of art. (just as there is artful nude photography, and porn.. there's a difference) But when you meet that charri that only wants to RP sex... give me a break.. it isn't for the art of writing...

Do want you want to.. I don't care.. but I do not have to do what I don't want to. I won't be forced into playing along with a situation I don't want to do.

Cantr is , or atleast I thought it was suppose to be, a family friendly game...

[Ryaga]

Sunni, no offence here, but since when is it people on the internet's job to set a good example for me? It's my parent's job to keep me away from things they don't believe are positive for me, not a game's. For the record, I've never done any of the crap mentioned in this thread.

Save for ****ing swearing.

[Sunni Daez]

It's more the overly sensitive adults that can't handle the roleplaying

Was meant strickly as a response to this. Adults should always set good examples, no matter where they are or what they are doing. I am not innocent of poor judgement..I don't claim perfection. Personally, just because I am on the internet, doesn't mean I am going to change my behavior and become a rude and nasty sleeze bucket.. just not my style.

I was not implying that as adults in a game, we need to teach anyone anything. A good example is just that.. an example.

[Nick]

If you're going to contrast games from simulators, Cantr has always been stated to be a society simulator.

That's not to say that SimCity or Rollercoaster Tycoon are not games, for instance.

[Cogliostro]

Talking of unwanted content, I have to mention the oversaturated busty broad who keeps on appearing in the ad below Cantr login. Nothing against her or whatever she's advertising, but she makes the entire login process feel dirty. What an inappropriate busty broad, for real.

She's got a pink button which says "Play" on her. I'm making due with my unspectacular IQ in the world, but that ad just makes it drop about 30-40 points each time I see it, and I have to login into Cantr and play after that. It's some kind of sabotage.



The day is coming when, cross-eyed and bleary, I will miss and click the haughty pink "Play" instead of the modest green "Login" I really want.

[Elros]

Talking of unwanted content, I have to mention the oversaturated busty broad who keeps on appearing in the ad below Cantr login. Nothing against her or whatever she's advertising, but she makes the entire login process feel dirty. What an inappropriate busty broad, for real.

She's got a pink button which says "Play" on her. I'm making due with my unspectacular IQ in the world, but that ad just makes it drop about 30-40 points each time I see it, and I have to login into Cantr and play after that. It's some kind of sabotage.



The day is coming when, cross-eyed and bleary, I will miss and click the haughty pink "Play" instead of the modest green "Login" I really want.

Very funny! I have been thinking the same thing lately...

[*Wiro]

Adults are suppose to set good examples... Is that a bad thing?
If I had joined an adult only RP game , then I wouldn't have a problem with this sort of RP. But I didn't.. so I don't. So, tell your mommy that you are role playing sex in a part game, part simulation "game" on the internet. What would her response be? Would she approve? Pat you on the back? Honestly? (Even being an adult... I don't think I could tell her that)

She wouldn't be angry nor happy, just be fine with it because she's not the kind of person to disapprove of things just because others think they're wrong. If she'd do that I'd probably end up like most narrow-minded freaks here in the Netherlands. I'm old enough to at least make these kind of decisions myself, and if I ever need to talk about something she's there for me. But she wouldn't go all "omg this is wrong stop with it right away sicko".

I disagree with the Cantrians not being human.

I agree with the characters who only are there to link the player to other people so they can basically cyber. That's just sick and tasteless, and nothing like roleplay nor an art.

I disagree with Cantr being family friendly, no game is that. There's always people getting offended one way or the other. And I don't think you should roleplay sex just because others force you in such situations. Tell them to back off and perhaps just pretend that it happened

[Caesar]

My parents wouldn't really get angry about it. They know that people from thirteen years on (actually even younger) already know quite a bit about sex. They even told me they wouldn't stop me from having it (note that I did not have 'it' yet), as long as I do not force it onto others, and do it 'safe'.

Besides that even I know that in any 'romantic' relationship sex isn't fully necessary, but that they often wither without.


I do have to say that I hate it when a character does seem to just 'serve' the player in more or less cybering. It should be part of the character, not been done just for your own pleasure. (Unless it is of course the roleplaying that gives you the pleasure.)

I am also okay with it if you'd pull back your character out of it or tell someone you're not fine with it.
But you should not force it onto others to have their characters never have sex either.

[chase02]

Part game, part simulation? Whats this suppose to mean. You cannot simulate if you don't 'play the game' Now you say it is 'simulation', but the only time I see anything that describes the fact that Cantians have genitalia in the first place, is when players RP it.

Cantrains are spawned.. not born. Genitailia are for reproductive purposes in real life... so how does that fit into the game? Humans and, I believe dolphins, are the only mammals that have sex for pleasure.. so why would Cantrains? They don't reproduce, so why would you simulate that they had the right parts to do so... read your anatomy book.. they are refered to as reproductive organs, not sex parts.

Just a couple of quick points..

Cantr is not a game, nor a simulation (as much as it may hope to be one). It is a place where people go, do things (which may or may not involve adult scenes), then go home. It is a place, nothing more, nothing less.

When Cantr describes people as either a man or a woman, in an almost earth-like setting, it is implied they are human-like. Despite the fact people just plonk into existence, it is a pretty great stretch of the imagination to think they are all sexless humans, identical in all ways to us except for having no "naughty bits", just because pregnancy and birth is not hard coded. It is natural for people to fill in the blanks and to expect that anything not explicitly stated will act and behave according to what we have experienced and understand IRL.

[Caesar]

Part game, part simulation? Whats this suppose to mean. You cannot simulate if you don't 'play the game' Now you say it is 'simulation', but the only time I see anything that describes the fact that Cantians have genitalia in the first place, is when players RP it.

Cantrains are spawned.. not born. Genitailia are for reproductive purposes in real life... so how does that fit into the game? Humans and, I believe dolphins, are the only mammals that have sex for pleasure.. so why would Cantrains? They don't reproduce, so why would you simulate that they had the right parts to do so... read your anatomy book.. they are refered to as reproductive organs, not sex parts.

Just a couple of quick points..

Cantr is not a game, nor a simulation (as much as it may hope to be one). It is a place where people go, do things (which may or may not involve adult scenes), then go home. It is a place, nothing more, nothing less.

When Cantr describes people as either a man or a woman, in an almost earth-like setting, it is implied they are human-like. Despite the fact people just plonk into existence, it is a pretty great stretch of the imagination to think they are all sexless humans, identical in all ways to us except for having no "naughty bits", just because pregnancy and birth is not hard coded. It is natural for people to fill in the blanks and to expect that anything not explicitly stated will act and behave according to what we have experienced and understand IRL.

I fully agree.

[El_Skwidd]

Though writing is an artform, and I do support the arts, I still feel sex, to the extent it is used in Cantr, really has no place.

Debate aside, the truth of this statement becomes more and more evident every time I log in. Props to you, Sunni and Severine; I think that's how I'll be playing from now on.

These "debates" as to how to handle sex in Cantr make it sound like sex is an enormous part of the game. I like to think that isn't true, but maybe it is, judging by how fast these topics grow in size. There's a lot more to the game than that, and if that's why you're playing, then I feel bad for you.

[*Wiro]

The speed of these threads growing bigger isn't related much to how important sex is in Cantr. Sex is always a drama.

[Caesar]

Perhaps not even 1/100 of my IC (In-Cantr ) posts have been about having sex.

It is simply that some think it is an issue that there is any.

And even if it is only 1/100th of the RPing that goes on with my chars, I still do not want 1/100th removed. It has even formed one of my chars, getting him banished from his home, and making him become paranoid.

Without the sex that wouldn't have happened, and I'd have missed out a lot on that character.

[Genevieve]

I think that sex is just a "hot button" for people, thus the reason it gets brought up and talked about so much -- I wish more people would just respect what the other person wants and not worry about it so much. If you don't want your charries having sex, don't. If you think it is okay but want to "fade to black" then do that. If you want to rp sex, go for it -- just be sure the other player is okay with it too and not force it on them.

Anyway, I honestly think there is nothing wrong with a character being totally in love and never having sex. I don't think there is anything wrong if they decide to either. One of my favorite charries I played last time was in a very loving non-sexual relationship and i didn't find it unusual.