In game OOC whispers

FiziKx · Postby **FiziKx** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:35 pm

Whispering has been used for OOC reasons a lot of the time (asking questions etc.), but now that there is a chance that whispering will be heard by someone else, maybe there should be a special ooc whisper thing that you trust good rpers to use only when real ooc help is needed. There are quite a few flaws with this idea, but just throwing it out there for possible debate.

Caesar · Postby **Caesar** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:56 pm

FiziKx wrote:Whispering has been used for OOC reasons a lot of the time (asking questions etc.), but now that there is a chance that whispering will be heard by someone else, maybe there should be a special ooc whisper thing that you trust good rpers to use only when real ooc help is needed. There are quite a few flaws with this idea, but just throwing it out there for possible debate.

Better to overhear the occasional OOC whisper than to have the system abused.

Dudel · Postby **Dudel** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:17 pm

Like all other OOC noise, I just ignore it as if it has never happened.

I honestly don't see a point to this.

Caesar · Postby **Caesar** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:19 pm

Dudel wrote:Like all other OOC noise, I just ignore it as if it has never happened.

I honestly don't see a point to this.

I am glad to be able to agree with Dudel.

Miri · Postby **Miri** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:27 pm

what concerns me more about the OOC whispering is that to everyone around it looks like any other whispering, while they shouldn't be able to notice it at all. There are situations when that difference could metter...

...sss, forget, I'm just in a rant-mood today

Caesar · Postby **Caesar** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:32 pm

Miri wrote:what concerns me more about the OOC whispering is that to everyone around it looks like any other whispering, while they shouldn't be able to notice it at all. There are situations when that difference could metter...

...sss, forget, I'm just in a rant-mood today

True.

Dudel · Postby **Dudel** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:34 pm

I think OOC whispers are so that the player doesn't feel as stupid for asking/telling EVERYONE OOC.

Caesar · Postby **Caesar** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:38 pm

Dudel wrote:I think OOC whispers are so that the player doesn't feel as stupid for asking/telling EVERYONE OOC.

True as well.

SekoETC · Postby **SekoETC** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:44 pm

I would be okay with separate OOC whispers being implemented just as long as people were aware of them being moderated and if it turned out someone was using them to coordinate in-game events, trying to use them as stealth-whispers, that person would be in for a ban.

Caesar · Postby **Caesar** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:46 pm

SekoETC wrote:I would be okay with separate OOC whispers being implemented just as long as people were aware of them being moderated and if it turned out someone was using them to coordinate in-game events, trying to use them as stealth-whispers, that person would be in for a ban.

Without warning.

FiziKx · Postby **FiziKx** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:53 pm

Caesar wrote:
SekoETC wrote:I would be okay with separate OOC whispers being implemented just as long as people were aware of them being moderated and if it turned out someone was using them to coordinate in-game events, trying to use them as stealth-whispers, that person would be in for a ban.

Without warning.

Yeah. 1st offense thing. could be considered big crb if they did use for in game coordination.

Postby **Piscator** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:18 pm

So we're basically crippling one mode of communication and add a new one as a crutch for special purposes. Sounds perfectly sensible to me. (Sorry for sounding sarcastic, but I am.)

Besides, shouldn't we wait for the final implementation of this overhearing feature before thinking about ways to patch its flaws? Otherwise we might find solutions for problems that won't be problems anymore in a week or two.

SekoETC · Postby **SekoETC** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:49 pm

Even if overhearing didn't stay, it would still be good if OOC whispers didn't look like IC whispers, because if someone saw somebody whispering to a person and asked what they said, and the whole message would have been OOC, the character technically shouldn't have seen anything.

Postby **Piscator** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:01 pm

That's indeed a point. And OOCing in the open might be frowned upon because some people feel it reduces the immersion. (Still people could send a very short ooc message to everybody, explaining that the whisper was ooc help, if they feel it a big enough issue.)

So, are you going to put a little OOC checkbox in the whisper menu that hides the event from everybody but the recipient and sends a copy to PD so that they might check it?

Oh, and I don't think it should be bannable on the first offence. Mistakes happen.

Caesar · Postby **Caesar** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:05 pm

Piscator wrote:That's indeed a point. And OOCing in the open might be frowned upon because some people feel it reduces the immersion. (Still people could send a very short ooc message to everybody, explaining that the whisper was ooc help, if they feel it a big enough issue.)

So, are you going to put a little OOC checkbox in the whisper menu that hides the event from everybody but the recipient and sends a copy to PD so that they might check it?

Oh, and I don't think it should be bannable on the first offence. Mistakes happen.

Checkbox:

OOC-MESSAGE? []

Easy to see enough. Mistake? Ban. (Perhaps make it clickable with an even better explanation.

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