Overhearing whispers, your opinion

[Arenti]

Someone please reassure me that people don't think sex or plotting are the only two reasons someone would want to keep a conversation private.

I agree it seems that most people think that that's the only reason people whisper, I can assure you my chars whisper a lot but never about sex or plotting.

[Surly]

Someone please reassure me that people don't think sex or plotting are the only two reasons someone would want to keep a conversation private.

I agree it seems that most people think that that's the only reason people whisper, I can assure you my chars whisper a lot but never about sex or plotting.

I personally in real life have many conversations shouted across the town square so everyone can hear me.

The implication that the only whispered conversations are plotting or cybering has absolutely no actual support to it. If anything, most whisperings are just to avoid *he looks at X* and so on.

[the_antisocial_hermit]

Someone please reassure me that people don't think sex or plotting are the only two reasons someone would want to keep a conversation private.

Extreme emotional distress that a person wants to commiserate only with someone they are close to: "I've been so depressed that I can't seem to do anything right. Why do these things happen to me?"

A quiet argument about something stupid (though often this might actually be seen in public): "You didn't build that flower pot right, you stupid git!"

Reprimanding an employee for bad behavior, but not wanting to out them in front of everyone in the hopes that they start getting their act together.

There are many things.

[SekoETC]

There are a lot of reasons to keep a conversation private, but I wouldn't mind all that much if a part of it was overheard. It may be a little bit embarrassing in some cases but isn't the end of the world. It might also reveal something about characters that they don't want to reveal in public. A lot of characters have hidden depth that they only reveal to people who are the most closest to them, and so far others haven't been able to get a glimpse of that accidentally unless they walk into a building while people are having a conversation without whispers.

The implication that the only whispered conversations are plotting or cybering has absolutely no actual support to it. If anything, most whisperings are just to avoid *he looks at X* and so on.

Yes, exactly. I think you said it better than me.

[amika-babilfrenzo]

The only thing I don't like about this version is that there's no effort on the part of the people that hear something, but there has to be so much more effort on the part of people wanting to keep things quiet. That's just not fair. It's a two-way street. I understand keeping things secret requires more effort than eavesdropping, but as it is, there's none at all on the part of the eavesdropper (who may or may not even care about eavesdropping; though yes, it's more like just accidentally hearing something or having the choice to accidentally overhear something- we all know how that is in Cantr though; everyone hears it and reacts to it or everyone ignores it).

Cone-shaped listening device anyone?

And by the way, is it everyone in the town that overhears whatever line or just a random person? I just need clarification.

I'm still more in favor of having something more thoroughly looked over and coded in than just whatever is easiest and fastest to get a feature like this in.

It's a 5% that the whisper will be overheard per location, and then 15% per character

[psychoticbirdy21]

Someone please reassure me that people don't think sex or plotting are the only two reasons someone would want to keep a conversation private.

sounds to me like they are...lol..

for me, though, if i whisper something to someone, there's a reason....like, you know, i don't want other people to hear...

[the_antisocial_hermit]

Someone please reassure me that people don't think sex or plotting are the only two reasons someone would want to keep a conversation private.

I agree it seems that most people think that that's the only reason people whisper, I can assure you my chars whisper a lot but never about sex or plotting.

I personally in real life have many conversations shouted across the town square so everyone can hear me.

The implication that the only whispered conversations are plotting or cybering has absolutely no actual support to it. If anything, most whisperings are just to avoid *he looks at X* and so on.

Me too! We should yell across the square to each other!

But yes, most (99%) of the time when my characters are/were whispering, it is in no way related to plots or sex. They were simple, every day conversations they were having with a specific person. Much like chatting over tea or lunch with a friend or coworker.

[Caesar]

Someone please reassure me that people don't think sex or plotting are the only two reasons someone would want to keep a conversation private.

I agree it seems that most people think that that's the only reason people whisper, I can assure you my chars whisper a lot but never about sex or plotting.

I personally in real life have many conversations shouted across the town square so everyone can hear me.

The implication that the only whispered conversations are plotting or cybering has absolutely no actual support to it. If anything, most whisperings are just to avoid *he looks at X* and so on.

Me too! We should yell across the square to each other!

But yes, most (99%) of the time when my characters are/were whispering, it is in no way related to plots or sex. They were simple, every day conversations they were having with a specific person. Much like chatting over tea or lunch with a friend or coworker.

Like talking to someone on a bench in a park.
If you walk by you might just hear a few sentences, right?

[SekoETC]

But technically it doesn't say anywhere that it's a whisper, since it says you see X talking to Y, not You see X going very close to Y and cupping his hands in front of her ear to whisper.

In FTO there are no whispers at all and that's going to another extremity since there you really have to go to a building or a cave if you want privacy, but if they were going to allow whispers, I'd rather have it with a chance of being overheard or that it made you lose your voice after a while, since it's pretty ridiculous that somebody is right next to a couple while not concentrating on anything and still can't hear what they're saying.

[the_antisocial_hermit]

The only thing I don't like about this version is that there's no effort on the part of the people that hear something, but there has to be so much more effort on the part of people wanting to keep things quiet. That's just not fair. It's a two-way street. I understand keeping things secret requires more effort than eavesdropping, but as it is, there's none at all on the part of the eavesdropper (who may or may not even care about eavesdropping; though yes, it's more like just accidentally hearing something or having the choice to accidentally overhear something- we all know how that is in Cantr though; everyone hears it and reacts to it or everyone ignores it).

Cone-shaped listening device anyone?

And by the way, is it everyone in the town that overhears whatever line or just a random person? I just need clarification.

I'm still more in favor of having something more thoroughly looked over and coded in than just whatever is easiest and fastest to get a feature like this in.

It's a 5% that the whisper will be overheard per location, and then 15% per character

Listening device might be probable. I prefer a project or something though.

Okay, I see. Kind of. So... one or two people might overhear it, but not all 20 in the location most likely. That's not so bad. I still would rather there be a better way that requires effort on both parts. Or that eavesdropping would be added onto this current thing when it can be coded well. Thank you.

[Debsy]

Someone please reassure me that people don't think sex or plotting are the only two reasons someone would want to keep a conversation private.

I agree it seems that most people think that that's the only reason people whisper, I can assure you my chars whisper a lot but never about sex or plotting.

It was just a joke.

[the_antisocial_hermit]

Someone please reassure me that people don't think sex or plotting are the only two reasons someone would want to keep a conversation private.

I agree it seems that most people think that that's the only reason people whisper, I can assure you my chars whisper a lot but never about sex or plotting.

I personally in real life have many conversations shouted across the town square so everyone can hear me.

The implication that the only whispered conversations are plotting or cybering has absolutely no actual support to it. If anything, most whisperings are just to avoid *he looks at X* and so on.

Me too! We should yell across the square to each other!

But yes, most (99%) of the time when my characters are/were whispering, it is in no way related to plots or sex. They were simple, every day conversations they were having with a specific person. Much like chatting over tea or lunch with a friend or coworker.

Like talking to someone on a bench in a park.
If you walk by you might just hear a few sentences, right?

Maybe. I wasn't arguing for or against it with that post. *shrug*

[Rebma]

I actually have a question regarding the sex-whisper issue. In Cantr, there are a lot of people who don't like to see/read sex RP. Generally people are able to tell their "partner/abuser/whatever" about this in some RPing way, or ooc if all else fails. It is their choice whether they are involved in that or not, and when players refuse to listen to their requests not to have to read that content, it comes to us in the form of a PD complaint.

The fact that some of these people might be exposed to the content they do not want to see, without any choice of their own, could potentially offend quite a few people, and ruffle feathers. As well as taking away their freedom of choice, ya know?

What do you plan to do to adress this, as it an issue as PD that I am very concerned about...?

[the_antisocial_hermit]

I actually have a question regarding the sex-whisper issue. In Cantr, there are a lot of people who don't like to see/read sex RP. Generally people are able to tell their "partner/abuser/whatever" about this in some RPing way, or ooc if all else fails. It is their choice whether they are involved in that or not, and when players refuse to listen to their requests not to have to read that content, it comes to us in the form of a PD complaint.

The fact that some of these people might be exposed to the content they do not want to see, without any choice of their own, could potentially offend quite a few people, and ruffle feathers. As well as taking away their freedom of choice, ya know?

What do you plan to do to adress this, as it an issue as PD that I am very concerned about...?

This is a good question... I'm very interested in hearing the answer.

[SekoETC]

Yes, that is a very good question. Although people probably shouldn't be having sex in public. They could already slip if the player accidentally puts it in the talk to all box instead of the other box and still expose themselves. But that's still a good argument for making listening dependent on choice.