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Postby Dudel » Thu May 21, 2009 3:52 am

Wow Wiro, besides that being slightly frightening, good epic character amusement. Does sound like MOST everyone at least avoided getting people killed, which I APPLAUD 1000000 percent!

Yay to being "evil" etc and still avoiding Pking!
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Postby Drael » Thu May 21, 2009 5:05 am

Wow, interesting to hear the full story wiro. You play a damn good sicko. I mean making people pretend theyre your brothers and sisters (is there even such a thing in cantr?). Thats class sicko.

Being killed by an idiot prolly isnt much of a fitting ending, but then youd probably have never seen the light of day..
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Postby Spider » Thu May 21, 2009 5:48 am

Joshuamonkey wrote:Thanks Wiro! I was wondering what was going on there. I should have been much more involved than I was, especially when you said you were the new leader. It was obvious that you had locked up or killed the leader who you tried to convince me to help you kill...but I was too busy being annoyed by the low quality roads. I regret ignoring that now, but at least it made for an interesting story.

It was then she decided that while she was locked away, daily he had raped and tortured her, and that the first person to pass by would have to be told this story. And there she was, Empress Chimera Brees, the woman with pretty much the most power in the area. The lies were told, and the leader was killed within a day or two, with Dory becoming the new leader of the place.

This is a pet peeve of mine. Too many people believe or feel obligated to believe every word of any women who says they were raped. My guess is that people consider it bad roleplay to disregard their story by the fact that rape isn't possible in Cantr other than with words.
There was a similar situation in Doryiskom. One of my characters saw someone (forgot name and can't look it up right now, started with a C) talking with a man on the road. I don't remember exactly, but I remember that the lady was in the wrong, and when they arrived to town, another of my characters were there to hear C's made up story about how she was raped. She was believed of course and the man was locked up until he died I think. She told this story many times, and gained many sympathies. This bothered me as a player for a long time...which is why I'm saying this now. :lol: Being one of the only people who knows the truth, I have to tell someone. C continued to become commander of the Guard and tried to kill the Councilors to take over the town.
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Cassy (not full name) I don't remember if the situation was real but I do agree that she was believed too easily...too much like real life there.

Props on remembering the name was with a C, that totally beat my own memory...I just know the name because I know where to look.
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Postby *Wiro » Thu May 21, 2009 10:58 am

Glad you all enjoyed the story and thanks. :) I was actually hoping for a battle between Dory and the DoUrden, and holding Amelia hostage, saying "For each lock that is broken, Amelia loses a finger. I want all of your healing food - and I know you have a lot - and for every day you do not give me it, I will remove one of the nails on her toes." That would've been fun. :twisted:

A few things I wonder is what is going to happen to her notes, such as the rather erotic poem Much wrote for her, and the story she was writing herself, as well as all of the logs she made for DISTRICT 1-JEDEN. Such as medical logs, behaviour logs, stuff like that.

@Dudel - that's not completely true. I killed one or two without roleplay. Although I think that doing so was OK in that situation, as they just didn't roleplay anymore, they just did things like pointing hundreds of times, just flooding the screen with useless spam. :roll: Angry wiro > smart wiro.

@Joshua - Could you PM me who you were? I have some ideas, but I'm not too sure. About the rape thing, yeah, it was a bit too easy. Much easier than saying "HE'S POSESSED BY EVIL SPIRITS HE MUST DIE!". I have chars who had trouble proving they were tortured, even after showing their scars, so it's not too hard to pick which one you would choose to survive.
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Postby Joshuamonkey » Thu May 21, 2009 2:40 pm

Lol, very true. And my character is Katie Angel. I'm glad you never got around to taking over Blaman Mountains West. She's lived in the mountains for so long, for a while by herself, that most people would be kind of crazy. I don't like being crazy though.
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Postby rconley » Thu May 21, 2009 2:54 pm

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Joshuamonkey wrote:There was a similar situation in Doryiskom. One of my characters saw someone (forgot name and can't look it up right now, started with a C) talking with a man on the road. I don't remember exactly, but I remember that the lady was in the wrong, and when they arrived to town, another of my characters were there to hear C's made up story about how she was raped. She was believed of course and the man was locked up until he died I think. She told this story many times, and gained many sympathies. This bothered me as a player for a long time...which is why I'm saying this now. :lol: Being one of the only people who knows the truth, I have to tell someone. C continued to become commander of the Guard and tried to kill the Councilors to take over the town.
And 30 bonus points for whoever can tell me what their name is.


Cassy Tales and she was mine. Though this isn't exactly how it happened either. The only two who truly know the truth are myself and the player of the rapist being the only two in the room at the time. So how you claim to know the "truth"...is beyond me. Cassy never made a false accusation on rape. Looking back on logs, she WAS but it makes it easy to believe one side or the other when you aren't there in the room or involved in the scene. This was all before she became Commander of the guard, but the rape DID occur and the man was never locked up, He ran (another sign of his guilt) He was chased on the road and Killed by Wong and others when he chose NOT to come back and resolve the issue. And actually I found out later and talked to the player who played the rapist. Quite a shock to find out who it was....
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Postby *Wiro » Thu May 21, 2009 3:00 pm

Joshuamonkey wrote:Lol, very true. And my character is Katie Angel. I'm glad you never got around to taking over Blaman Mountains West. She's lived in the mountains for so long, for a while by herself, that most people would be kind of crazy. I don't like being crazy though.


Ah, alright.. well, she would've been locked up for sure, no death. Dory always had trouble accepting things didn't go -exactly- the way she wanted it to be, and that's also the reason she had such strict punishments. I guess Much and Kahlan got pretty confused at some point as she kept changing her plans and acted like that was part of the plan from the start, but she just forgot to tell them. :P
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Postby joo » Thu May 21, 2009 6:03 pm

That must have taken you a while to write, Wiro. I'll have to read it when my character who was involved dies, though.
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Postby Debsy » Thu May 21, 2009 6:08 pm

joo wrote:That must have taken you a while to write, Wiro. I'll have to read it when my character who was involved dies, though.


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Postby joo » Thu May 21, 2009 6:13 pm

3shyof30rats wrote:
joo wrote:That must have taken you a while to write, Wiro. I'll have to read it when my character who was involved dies, though.

:?

He was involved enough for me to not want to see the details -- nothing you don't know about.
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Postby Dudel » Thu May 21, 2009 6:25 pm

*Wiro wrote:@Dudel - that's not completely true. I killed one or two without roleplay. Although I think that doing so was OK in that situation, as they just didn't roleplay anymore, they just did things like pointing hundreds of times, just flooding the screen with useless spam. :roll: Angry wiro > smart wiro.


Well you tried enough? Like the guy knocking on a prison door for two hours with the hopes that everyone outside will be annoyed enough to kill him. Hmm... maybe I should put that in bad RP strategy? Its easier to ignore a door knock then you think. ;) :lol:
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Postby *Wiro » Thu May 21, 2009 6:56 pm

Dudel wrote:
*Wiro wrote:@Dudel - that's not completely true. I killed one or two without roleplay. Although I think that doing so was OK in that situation, as they just didn't roleplay anymore, they just did things like pointing hundreds of times, just flooding the screen with useless spam. :roll: Angry wiro > smart wiro.


Well you tried enough? Like the guy knocking on a prison door for two hours with the hopes that everyone outside will be annoyed enough to kill him. Hmm... maybe I should put that in bad RP strategy? Its easier to ignore a door knock then you think. ;) :lol:


Thing was one of them basically tried everything to escape and survive, except cooperating and interacting with her. He roleplayed with everyone except me, so that was enough of a reason for me to kill him instead of locking him up forever to put him to work. Add the pointing/ignoring roleplayed attacks, pushes and attempts to tie him up for some torturing to that, and you get a no-RP-kill. That's also mainly the reason so many people don't roleplay with their prisoners when attacking, simply because they attack back instead of roleplaying whatever attacks are fired at them. It's also making torturing really hard, because not everyone wants to roleplay being tied up, so they like, leave the room or ALWAYS dodge or escape the ropes, whatever.

You say: "*sneaks in, and as he sees the slave sitting near the anvil, crafting a crowbar, he raises his own crowbar in the air while he walks closer without a sound, then with a small, gentle swing he hits the slave against his head with the crowbar*"
Slave says: "*dodges and shoots at him with his crossbow*"

I'd enjoy roleplaying something like a battle that's not just shoot and fire, but somehow I barely ever end up with people that I would be able to roleplay it with.
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Postby Joshuamonkey » Thu May 21, 2009 7:41 pm

I'd enjoy roleplaying something like a battle that's not just shoot and fire, but somehow I barely ever end up with people that I would be able to roleplay it with.


In that case, I'll try to keep an open mind when someone attacks me with roleplay. However, I don't think that has ever happened. =/

Rconley, what my character would have seen is the scene on the road. And I'm sorry about the misunderstanding, but I'm glad that I mentioned it because it's nice to know the truth now, so thank you.

rconley wrote: :evil:

*cries* :cry:

I don't like that people that bring that kind of thing into the game. Society simulator or not, we don't need to add that kind of content to the game. This isn't school, we don't need to teach people what the "real world" is like. :roll:
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Postby Tangential » Thu May 21, 2009 9:33 pm

Joshuamonkey wrote:
rconley wrote: :evil:

*cries* :cry:


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Postby Henk » Fri May 22, 2009 12:28 am

*Wiro wrote:Glad you all enjoyed the story and thanks. :) I was actually hoping for a battle between Dory and the DoUrden, and holding Amelia hostage, saying "For each lock that is broken, Amelia loses a finger. I want all of your healing food - and I know you have a lot - and for every day you do not give me it, I will remove one of the nails on her toes." That would've been fun. :twisted:

A few things I wonder is what is going to happen to her notes, such as the rather erotic poem Much wrote for her, and the story she was writing herself, as well as all of the logs she made for DISTRICT 1-JEDEN. Such as medical logs, behaviour logs, stuff like that.


The fight would have become fun to do! :D Although I don't think Dory could have won that fight, as her own followers didn't completely believe in her cause... And as I am one of the DoUrden aswel, you wouldn't have been able to win :wink:
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