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Postby Achilles » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:08 am

ShadowWolf wrote:All you could do is follow the coast asking about him.


Exactly. That is what I do. That is the correct thing to do.

Not allowing some information from another character of mine to make this character of mine to magically divert his ship directly to the pirate I'm hunting, as if he had been blessed by some revealing dream.

THIS is the right way to play, whether you like it or not.

Unfortunately it seems everybody who is debating this subject with me seem to be blind to this.

And... maybe that's why things take time... as they should.

In the correct way.
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Postby Achilles » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:14 am

Rebma19 wrote:Achilles, you've been offensive by not bothering to actually read what anyone is telling you, even people who don't like his character and calling what you're saying b.s.

Also been offensive towards myself personally.

So don't go on like that.


This is not a question about liking or not. This is something about freely talking about something that seems close to a CRB.

But... whatever.

If you truly think I was the one starting being offensive, then I'm the first one to apologize. I'm sorry.

I hope you can also see that your tactics of trying to reduce me to someone ignorant and incapable of reading or understanding, was not nice either.

Thank you.
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Postby C4 Dark Saint » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:15 am

Achilles wrote:
ShadowWolf wrote:All you could do is follow the coast asking about him.


Exactly. That is what I do. That is the correct thing to do.

Not allowing some information from another character of mine to make this character of mine to magically divert his ship directly to the pirate I'm hunting, as if he had been blessed by some revealing dream.

THIS is the right way to play, whether you like it or not.

Unfortunately it seems everybody who is debating this subject with me seem to be blind to this.

And... maybe that's why things take time... as they should.

In the correct way.


maybe your the one who is blind? we proven our points, and you seem to repeat yourself over and over agin about stuff that is BS... just go to to bed, and rethink the facts
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Postby Achilles » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:22 am

C4 Dark Saint wrote:
Achilles wrote:
ShadowWolf wrote:All you could do is follow the coast asking about him.


Exactly. That is what I do. That is the correct thing to do.

Not allowing some information from another character of mine to make this character of mine to magically divert his ship directly to the pirate I'm hunting, as if he had been blessed by some revealing dream.

THIS is the right way to play, whether you like it or not.

Unfortunately it seems everybody who is debating this subject with me seem to be blind to this.

And... maybe that's why things take time... as they should.

In the correct way.


maybe your the one who is blind? we proven our points, and you seem to repeat yourself over and over agin about stuff that is BS... just go to to bed, and rethink the facts



Goodnight then. Sleep well and take care, my friends.
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Postby ShadowWolf » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:25 am

So when Adam leaves the island heading for another island its a CRB because I didn't follow a coast all the way up and then sail across like the map says? Some of those maps have errors, and when you've been around the islands enough you dont need to follow the coast until you reach that point. You can make a pretty good guess at the right direction and when your closer adjust it to reach the lighthouse ;)


Or is it because Adam went from Kii to Olip west its a CRB?

Because it was clearly stated by him when he left Omeo that he wasn't going to attack Siom they would attack a town after siom, to test them out before moving on and taking out the Queen and Shai island.

I'm sorry my character has spent more time on the sea than yours has alive...but its not a CRB for your character to understand something hes done for 60+ years. He used to collect maps but no longer needs to. Hes sailed around them enough hes got a general direction in his head without them..


and WOW their...dont mistake my lack of being a complete asshole today for friendship. I keep few friends, alot of acquaintances, and the rest are enemies and those I haven't had time to piss off yet
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Postby chase02 » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:33 am

Steering this thread slightly away from trolling heaven here.. but I think this comes back to a fundamental problem with the CR.

Adam's player here has been sailing around the cantr world for god knows how many IRL years, which is knowledge accumulated as a player as well as character. If Adam dies and he respawns a character, CR says (if I'm getting this right) he should have absolutely zero knowledge and start again sailing around and getting lost as a new player would - which I personally feel is impossible. I'm not saying people will go HARR I KNOW FU ISLAND IS THAT WAY *points*, but they are not going to act as a new player. It is childish to assume and expect so.
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Postby Rebma » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:47 am

Chase, that's up for debate. I have a character who knew exactly which town connected where by memory. When I spawned a new character I RPed as if they didn't know a thing. Because THEY didn't, I did.
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Postby Achilles » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:55 am

ShadowWolf wrote:So when Adam leaves the island heading for another island its a CRB because I didn't follow a coast all the way up and then sail across like the map says? Some of those maps have errors, and when you've been around the islands enough you dont need to follow the coast until you reach that point. You can make a pretty good guess at the right direction and when your closer adjust it to reach the lighthouse ;)


Or is it because Adam went from Kii to Olip west its a CRB?

Because it was clearly stated by him when he left Omeo that he wasn't going to attack Siom they would attack a town after siom, to test them out before moving on and taking out the Queen and Shai island.

I'm sorry my character has spent more time on the sea than yours has alive...but its not a CRB for your character to understand something hes done for 60+ years. He used to collect maps but no longer needs to. Hes sailed around them enough hes got a general direction in his head without them..


and WOW their...dont mistake my lack of being a complete asshole today for friendship. I keep few friends, alot of acquaintances, and the rest are enemies and those I haven't had time to piss off yet



Nothing you said has anything to do with what I've said. You know it better.

To move across the ocean is not a CRB, obviously.

But to leave a conquered town PLUS admitting you knew ooc "we were coming after you", this is a completely different story.

I'm not good with advices, but in this case I feel I should tell you that next time you shouldn't publicly admit you know things ooc. People might suspect you use that information for your own sake.

But whatever... I wish you a goodnight. Sleep well and take care.

P.S. - Are you sure your character has spent more time on the sea than mine has alive? Are you really sure?

:wink:

Goodbye...
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Postby Achilles » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:58 am

Rebma19 wrote:Chase, that's up for debate. I have a character who knew exactly which town connected where by memory. When I spawned a new character I RPed as if they didn't know a thing. Because THEY didn't, I did.


Well said!

FULLY agree with you. This is how it should be played. Period.

*waves goodbye for good*
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Postby ShadowWolf » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:13 am

LOL conquered town...its a CRB because I left a conquered town?...LMAO...Adam lives on the sea in a ship NOT in a town. The only towns he would settle in are 1) the forest which he wont stay in now 2) Siom (which wouldn't be good anymore 3) on an unpopulated island away from people. Adam NEVER planned on staying in Kii so saying because he left his conquered town is a CRB is complete bullshit. Hes got towns he leaves ships in so why would he stay in a town with nothing of interest, no amazing resources to him and close to populated areas (AFTER hes attacked the coast)

Most of my characters wouldn't get lost on the sea if it was their first time sailing. They would follow the coast untill they know the area (like all mine did) Or follow a maps direction untill they know what they can do. I've got a character that spent years getting home because he couldn't remember the right direction even though I did.

Why would I hide the fact that I knew you where coming, PD would have known I knew I wouldn't be surprised if they are still watching my account closely after all this time. Yes I KNEW you where coming, and Adam ASSUMED you where coming. But then again Adam assumed a group would be coming long before you ever started getting ready to come after me. Its not hard to expect a group to come after him when he ALLOWS survivors. Adam allows survivors of almost EVERY town he attacks. It lets people spread the word, some are too afraid to fight back and others want to come after him.
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Postby Rebma » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:18 am

..*sighs* Well chase, attempt fails.

I hope a CD comes in here soon, since this seems to be a multiple page hate-fest, and more than one person (myself included) are guilty in partaking in it. And is quite sad to see.

*calls on the might CD gods to stop the shit*
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Postby ShadowWolf » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:18 am

oh and if Seko's char stuck around a little longer to harass us and slow work down you MIGHT have had a chance to run into us. When our work was finished we set sail. It had nothing to do with me knowing you where coming. Adam finished what was needed and their was no IG reason for them to stay their any longer so they followed their IG reasons for leaving and moved on to the NEXT target. Most pirates aren't going to sit around after taking out a town. They hit and flee. Adam isn't most pirates. Hes not interested in stealing stuff (unless they actually need something) most places he takes out is because someone pissed him off in the past. So since hes not afraid and not trying to hide, he will take the time to make something in a town (that you can't make on a ship since you can't make the machines) that HE needs to upgrade his ship to sail faster. They WHERE hoping that a group would show up to fight them but after waiting that long it really seems like those who fled never looked back.
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Postby C4 Dark Saint » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:03 pm

lol well I didnt miss much after I attempted to sleep.
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Postby SekoETC » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:29 pm

Adam had keys to all the vehicles and buildings save for one back room and the bike I was using. Hiding in that single locked room to snipe at people would have been risky since they would have quickly figured out where I was and with so many people it would be technically possible to break the lock in less than a day. Also they could have broken into my bike and that would have made escaping dangerous if not impossible. Also it was important to get word out to Zuzi that there really had been an attack, since until then there was a chance that they were really just trading like honest people. We knew Adam is a morally questionable person but still would have been ready to trade in order to avoid bloodshed.
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Postby *Wiro » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:21 pm

ShadowWolf wrote:let others think they sleep


That's really stupid. Roleplay or quit. Seriously. Acting like you're asleep is just... stupid. Most people that care about roleplaying actually wait for sleeping people to reply, so it's really annoying if you read it, but don't write anything back. If you're gonna act asleep, roleplay it (*sleeps lololol* whatever, don't do nothing). Don't say nothing, just roleplay. >_> That's one of the things that really piss me off in Cantr.

As for Adam Brinks, haven't seen him. But if it's true you roleplay (noplay) him like that, then I don't really think I want to meet him. And you can keep using "they piss me off" as an excuse, but Cantr is not a mass-murdering game. Just because someone says one mean thing, doesn't mean you should kill them right away. It's not the way Cantr works... just, no.

Anyway, if anyone has a CRB to report, do so in the CRB section.
Anyway no. 2, just 'cause your characters are meanies (lol) doesn't mean you have to be one as well. Be nice or don't post.

So, be nice. No more flaming. Insults and stuff will be moved and a warning by PM will be sent. Thanks. Oh, and CRB reports go to the CRB section.
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