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Postby kroner » Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:04 am

Badger (rklenseth) wrote:This just didn't seem like a few Palestinian though and I wasn't generalizing at all. I think you see me as a close minded person which I'm really not but that just goes to prove that you don't really know who I am or what my beliefs, morals, and ideals are. But anyways, it was enough Palestinians to make the terrorist groups to take back their claims and said we had no part in this. Maybe this will open minds in many peoples eyes that that part of the Middle East is the home of many hundreds of different religions and that no one can truly make claim for it. I recently learned that in order to be a citizen and have rights in Israel you have to be Jewish which I find totally unacceptable and wrong being Catholic. What I think should be done is that Palestine and Israel should be merged together as one democractic secular nation. But alot of people would probably want to do both in Palestine and Israel before that ever occurred.

no i really don't think you're a close minded person, i was just terribly twisting what you said to make a point. i know that deep down you're a good guy... and even not so deep down.
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Postby quidit » Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:56 pm

Camino wrote:
quidit wrote:But that is not why I put this on here..I just think that noone should ever forget the horor of that day..and I'm am not saying this as a American or because it happened to America, but I say this as a member of the Human Race.

I myself do disagree with a few of his statements and am saddend that more innocent lives were lost due to the course of action our government took, but terroism is now in everyones back yard and something needs to be done.....I wish I knew what and how to do it without the risk of more lives being lost....but I dont...so.....I will Pray.....

It's hard to find the answer when you are the cause.


Terrorism is now in everyones backyard? Its been my backyard for the last fourty years because of you Americans, so don't get all sentimental
just because you got a smack in the face in front of the world. The horror of the day was nothing to having 100,000 people incinerated in less than a minute.
For months all you people could go on about was that day, every little detail had to have some remark to it, you couldn't just accept that people are very irritated at living in poverty for their entire lives just so people hundereds of miles away can get cheap gasoline. Everything about your society makes me cringe, you put so much value on your economy and how much money you all have - here's a thought why not try getting so worked up about everything and calling down on your almighty every time you need to add some spice to speech justifying some new oil fields.


If your speaking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki may I remind you that Japan got that whole ball rolling and one of the main reasons that they attacked Pearl Harbor was because of oil.

Now as for you people beleivein that America is in this for the oil I dont see that cause otherwise why am I still paying $1.85 for a gallon of gas and expected to rise to $2.00 plus in the next few months.
And if you read my post I say the horror of the day not because I am American or because it happened to America but for the Human Race.

I do not think I am any better than anyone else, I am just like you but yet you Chastise me just because I am a American who happens to be proud of where I live (but not always proud of what my Gov. does). I agree that I am very lucky and I do enjoy a somewhat modest life style...but I work very hard for that sometimes 60 to 80 hours a week in conditions that would make most people run away.
If you met me and I met you without these prejudices who knows we could be freinds, good freinds, but I guess not because I am a "dirty American"..That is sad.

Anyway all I was saying is a event like that should never be forgotten, just as the Jewish Holocaust should never be forgotten, The Attacks in Italy should never be forgotten, and many other terrorist like attacks so that we can all work together and stop these madmen.
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Postby trage » Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:40 pm

Badger I would geuss the reason yuo have to be Jewish is because the Jews moved to Isreal to find their own nation instead of beintg a countryless group of people. They were tired of being the scape goat for everyone and decided to get together and start fighting for themselves. As represented in the six day war.
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Postby nitefyre » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:17 pm

trage wrote:Badger I would geuss the reason yuo have to be Jewish is because the Jews moved to Isreal to find their own nation instead of beintg a countryless group of people. They were tired of being the scape goat for everyone and decided to get together and start fighting for themselves. As represented in the six day war.


-And 50 years of the instability and problems that followed-even to this day.

-My god, did yaw see what they did to the Americans in Fallujah yesterday? They dragged civilian Americans through the streets and started dismembering their remains. Sick fucking bastards. Oh and no media bullshit this time [@Pirog]

-And yar, a very touching clip that was.
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Postby The Hunter » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:23 pm

Saw that... Sickening... Tho I believe the victims werenot americans... Anyway, yeah, that was pretty sich what they did... :cry:
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Postby nitefyre » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:48 pm

The Hunter wrote:Saw that... Sickening... Tho I believe the victims werenot americans... Anyway, yeah, that was pretty sich what they did... :cry:


Yes, I think there were some Americans *they wouldn't even put it on standard media it was sickening* some may have been other civilians as well. Reminds me of Black Hawk Down.
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Postby trage » Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:07 am

Wait who did that? I don't remember that happening.....
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Postby nitefyre » Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:41 am

trage wrote:Wait who did that? I don't remember that happening.....


In iraq fallujah, today. And black hawk down I meant somalia '93 when US Army Rangers 75 Regiment were in an action that downed a UH-60 from the 160th and they dragged the remains and brutally brutalized the dead bodies.
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Postby trage » Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:43 am

Ok for a second I thought you were refering to Isrealites. I was like wait aren't they our allies? Ok thanks for clearing that up for me Nitefryre.
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Postby nitefyre » Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:25 am

trage wrote:Ok for a second I thought you were refering to Isrealites. I was like wait aren't they our allies? Ok thanks for clearing that up for me Nitefryre.


No problem at all Trage---I was tlaking about the Americans, here and then, and how the world hates us, Americans. Barbarians---> :twisted:
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Postby rklenseth » Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:34 am

One reason why America should just become isolated and worry about itself like it did the first 100 years. America could become self sufficient if it really wanted to. But then all the other countries will bitch about how we aren't doing anything like the first 100 years of America. :roll:
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Postby Spectrus_Wolfus » Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:25 am

that's the biggest problem with being the world's police man.


everyone hates cops :lol:
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Postby Meh » Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:31 am

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Postby trage » Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:03 pm

Problem is we NEED some materials from other countries. Such as oil and rubber, and we trade a lot with others sadly.
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Postby rklenseth » Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:18 pm

No, we don't. America produces more oil than most of the OPEC nations but we export all of our oil to other countries. It makes the oil industry more money to sell it overseas than to sell it in American. Then these same oil companies buy oil from South America which is where 90% of the oil that is sold in the US comes from.

I'm sure there are some resources that we don't have in the US that we would have to trade for abroad but America most resource rich nations in the world but we almost never see it because all the resources are exported abroad because of cheaper labor and it takes a bigger bang for its buck.

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