Character descriptions

[Idriveayugo]

I have a female character (i'm a dude), i'd make my character as fat and ugly as possible so no guy would hit on her.

[Dudel]

Thats a good idea lordcooper.

Idriveayugo thats um... kinda... um. Well I have 1 female character and the best way to deter male's if you insist on doing so is to infact push them away. Making her 'fat' and 'ugly' won't stop everyone. I have one character that really would not care about her looks at all. Infact as the player I would choose to generally ignore the descriptions for people and just do my basic emotes as they are now. Unless they have something obvious like two diffrent colored eyes or something. My chars like me are generally non judgemental. They treat everyone the same. Be it nice or rude/mean.


Also I still think this would be SO AWSOME if implemented. My characters would make so much more sence to other players if they could see a description of what they basically look like. Although if you think about it we should come to a similar consensous anyway. (Not counting color)

Sorry for the ramble.

[SekoETC]

That's a great idea, lordcooper.

I think it would make things easier if people who are strongly against sex in Cantr would make their characters ugly so that my characters wouldn't feel attracted to them... Although I mainly feel attracted to the style of writing so even if a character was physically unattractive, my characters might still be drawn to them if their style of writing is attractive. The character description would still be on a different page so the first impression would still be made based on writing.

beautiful writing + ugly character = uncertainty, halting to see if their personality overcomes their physical flaws

beautiful writing + beautiful character = flirting, I'd hit it right away

ugly writing + ugly character = turn-off, the appearance underlines the first impression made based on writing

ugly writing + beautiful character = resentment

[Dudel]

That's a great idea, lordcooper.

I think it would make things easier if people who are strongly against sex in Cantr would make their characters ugly so that my characters wouldn't feel attracted to them... Although I mainly feel attracted to the style of writing so even if a character was physically unattractive, my characters might still be drawn to them if their style of writing is attractive. The character description would still be on a different page so the first impression would still be made based on writing.

beautiful writing + ugly character = uncertainty, halting to see if their personality overcomes their physical flaws

beautiful writing + beautiful character = flirting, I'd hit it right away

ugly writing + ugly character = turn-off, the appearance underlines the first impression made based on writing

ugly writing + beautiful character = resentment

Not 100% on 'ugly writing' does spelling count because I can sometimes redrum the spelling. *Annoys me more then you trust me* Oh and I have a question: Resentment, so like dumb blond situation. Cause I'd wana kill the stupid (exploited deleted).

[joo]

Cause I'd wana kill the stupid (exploited deleted).

You mean expletive, right?

Well, I'd never want to RP a woman having sex with a man, it would be very, uh, uncomfortable for me to have to do something like that. Two of my female characters have come very close to having sex, but couldn't continue with it. (does that beat my one male character who actually did? ). But - I don't think that making character who you don't want to have sex ugly would be a good solution to that.

First of all, being ugly or beautiful doesn't stop people from falling in love with you because of your personality. People with a good personailty are more likely to have longer relationships because their partner isn't going to get sick of their awful personality.

Also, if people were given the choice to write whatever description they wanted for each character, I don't think there would be enough average looking characters. There will be a lot of people automatically making their characters stunningly beautiful, a few people making ugly or odd looking characters, or just unrealistic looking people. Everybody will be "special" and I'd get sick of that very soon. Also, there would be no standard for appearance. One person might just mention that their charcater has brown hair and blue eyes, while another could go into detail about the structure of their face, their proportions, skin tone, etc. It would make the game uneven in my opinion.

[*Wiro]

Well, I'd never want to RP a woman having sex with a man, it would be very, uh, uncomfortable for me to have to do something like that.

Only one or two of my female characters had sex so far. My male characters are very boring. It can be hard, not knowing that much about the female body.

[Dudel]

Sure joo expletive what ever I don't care.


Also joo that could be fixed with a simple drop down menu situation for eye color hair lengh etc. That way everyone is simply described.

Nothing like

She has long flowing blond hair that reaches to the base of her knees. With sparkling blue eyes and the body seems to flow with the wind.


More like

She has long blond hair, blue eyes, and is thiner then average.

I could easily do that for all... well most of my characters.

[SekoETC]

I tend to be more likely to ignore players who can't or won't bother to spell but I can interact with their characters if it's necessary. Actually two of my characters are in relationships with people who have some notable trouble spelling. For both there was no one else interested in them and they were lonely. In another kind of a situation I probably wouldn't have looked at them twice but now my characters have grown more or less fond of their partners.

About resentment, it's a bit hard to describe but I might have thoughts like "I bet that person likes to cyber and the player is probably some guy who can't get any in real life, so they make a beautiful female character and get off wanking at the computer, imagining they had a girlfriend like their character." Or then it makes me think of popular kids at school who bully others.

Beauty is such a subjective thing that it would be okay if there was no "beautiful checkbox", but I'd like to know if some character is outright ugly or deformed because in games characters like that usually want to be noticed.

I have no problem playing characters of the opposite sex, even in bed, but I can imagine it would be difficult for others. I know some people who play it well but a lot of female characters played by men stand out as somehow ungraceful. Maybe this discussion has gotten a bit off track but I'd like to say to guys who play a chick, don't overdo it. If your character has sex with someone, they are allowed not to like everything that happens, and it's also natural not to like or submit to everything. Playing that kind of girls is more likely to attract other guys who are more into cybering than quality rp, and even worse, those guys might imagine real girls are like that and treat them poorly irl.

If you feel iffy or uncomfortable about something, there's good reason to think that your character would also find it questionable. A character is much more natural if they have some limits. So... learn to say no, and if your character says "that hurts", it shouldn't continue with "but keep going" unless your character is a masochist.

[lordcooper]

So, is this gonna be accepted?

Or just die and sink to page 15?

[SekoETC]

I'd put it in the "maybe" pile. We have survived this far without appearances, I think we can do without a bit longer.

[Dudel]

I'd put it in the "maybe" pile. We have survived this far without appearances, I think we can do without a bit longer.

Agreed... Would like a simple one however.

[Doug R.]

Your forgot a reason against implementing this:

It was always intended for characters to have genetic appearance traits based on their regions. While this concept was never implemented, who knows how much invisible code was already put into place to support this? This concept would have to be formally abandoned by the designers before a describe-yourself system was implemented.

Also, what if the checkboxes don't cover my character's imagined traits? What if I want silver or pink hair?

[*Wiro]

That's why it should be possible to suggest new things for that.

[lordcooper]

Ask someone in Prog Dept
If it can be done for clothes, why not for hair?

And maybe when you set up a character then certain things are *fixed* depending on the region...

[SekoETC]

The thing with clothes is that they already have descriptions, they're just being turned from text into images, while characters have no appearance short of what's being invented and roleplayed by the players. I think it was already stated that if there is a genetics system, it could only be used for vague language group dependent traits like letters or color codes, since there are enough people who would get a nose bleed if their characters, even their new characters that don't have a history, were forced to accept an appearance they couldn't choose themselves.