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Postby *Wiro » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:19 pm

Mr. Black wrote:I think my girlfriend wants to break up with me, because I've seen her talking to this other guy a lot. So, I've been a bit depressed lately, but that's my normal state anyway, so not much difference.


Don't think like that. Talk to her about it and be glad you at least got to experience having a girlfriend.
I'm way too shy to ask anyone. And I have yet to meet a girl (or boy, who knows what the future brings ) that I really like.

I'm feeling happy today though. :) But I don't know why. ^^
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Postby Mr. Black » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:24 pm

Hmm. Thanks for the advice, mate. And anyway, on a side note, since you were talking about possibly a boy, if anyone ever tells you it's wrong to be gay, pay no attention to them. Some of my greatest friends are gay.
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Postby Rebma » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:37 pm

Mr. Black wrote:.... if anyone ever tells you it's wrong to be gay, pay no attention to them. Some of my greatest friends are gay.


Agreed. Tenfold.
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Postby *Wiro » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:48 pm

Mr. Black wrote:Hmm. Thanks for the advice, mate. And anyway, on a side note, since you were talking about possibly a boy, if anyone ever tells you it's wrong to be gay, pay no attention to them. Some of my greatest friends are gay.


Here in the Netherlands people are a bit too much like that, sadly.
I hate it. Luckily I have a few good friends who I can talk to, so if I ever happen to choose that path I'm sure they'll help me when anyone says anything about it.

Allthough I probably wouldn't tell much people. I wouldn't lie when people ask, but there's no reason to say it to everyone you know. I mean, do you ever hear anyone say "Hi, I'm straight."?

But yeah, I wouldn't ever let anyone tell me it's wrong to be gay. I might be shy sometimes, but when I feel like something is just wrong I can be pretty fierce.

OOH, And I just remembered something. I did have a girlfriend, once.
For a day. I was really young then and didn't care about it.
When I think about it it was pretty mean of me, but I didn't understand love back then.
I just said "Ok." and the next day "Let's not do it anymore, ok?" :P
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Postby Nom Pop » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:58 pm

*Wiro wrote:Luckily I have a few good friends who I can talk to, so if I ever happen to choose that path I'm sure they'll help me when anyone says anything about it.

Allthough I probably wouldn't tell much people. I wouldn't lie when people ask, but there's no reason to say it to everyone you know. I mean, do you ever hear anyone say "Hi, I'm straight."?


One, I personally don't believe it's something you can choose ;)

Two, my now best friend is gay and he came out to our/his friends gradually. He was even asked whether he's gay and he denied it in front of some people for quite a long time. He told each person individually - when he was ready for it - and when he did it wasn't much of a big deal for anyone as far as I know. Thought that might help you relax about it a bit. And you say you have some friends you can talk to, that's awesome.
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Postby *Wiro » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:07 pm

Nom Pop wrote:
*Wiro wrote:Luckily I have a few good friends who I can talk to, so if I ever happen to choose that path I'm sure they'll help me when anyone says anything about it.

Allthough I probably wouldn't tell much people. I wouldn't lie when people ask, but there's no reason to say it to everyone you know. I mean, do you ever hear anyone say "Hi, I'm straight."?


One, I personally don't believe it's something you can choose ;)

Two, my now best friend is gay and he came out to our/his friends gradually. He was even asked whether he's gay and he denied it in front of some people for quite a long time. He told each person individually - when he was ready for it - and when he did it wasn't much of a big deal for anyone as far as I know. Thought that might help you relax about it a bit. And you say you have some friends you can talk to, that's awesome.


I meant choosing to tell the one I love. As there's also the choice to keep quiet and live on. (A teacher told me about her grandpa who only told his family he was gay a day before he died, that would be a horrible way to live)

And the idea of telling all friends one by one sounds good.
At my school there are a lot of people who joke about it, I think that's why no one there actually admits he's gay.
But there was one boy who confessed to another boy and that boy said no and told a lot of other people about it. That kind of people make me feel sick.

I'm sure I wouldn't pick the "I love you" approach. Not with girls either
I'd slowly show what I think of that person and see if that person thinks the same about it as me.

*Sighs* Love is so annoying sometimes.
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Postby lordcooper » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:11 pm

I came out as bisexual in year 10 and only about three people believed me...
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Postby Nom Pop » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:14 pm

Right, that makes sense now.

And the grandpa there.. wow. That's really harsh.

All the things you said about your school and other people.. well, people will always be people, right? I know this sounds stupid, but you should do what your heart wants. This way you won't live to regret the things you (never) did. And f*** them. School is gonna be over at some point, and who knows, maybe you can be the one to bring a change. You seem like a smart enough guy anyways.

And yeah. Love can be annoying *sighsalong*

Things are gonna be fine, don't worry.

*Edited to put this more clearly: You should do what *your* heart wants, regardless of how you think people will react.
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Postby Rebma » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:14 pm

Family is the hardest to tell sometimes. Some are okay, some are not.

Me:mom, i'm bi.
Mom: I know.

Me:i like men. but i like woman too. I'm bi.
Stepmom: this is just a phase. You'll be over it soon.

I got teased a lot in highschool, but its not the end of the world.
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Postby Mr. Black » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:18 pm

Eh, I may have a lot of gay and bi friends, but I'm straight. I really don't know why, actually. Well, maybe it's just that I don't love guys, but it might be that I'm afraid of the whole "gay" label. You know, how, even though that today's culture is much more liberal, gays are still branded for life, beaten, killed, that sort of thing. And yes, love is tricky.
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Postby *Wiro » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:25 pm

lordcooper wrote:I came out as bisexual in year 10 and only about three people believed me...


That really sucks. When I was 10... Hm, I didn't even really understand what being gay or bi was then. The main subject then was porn, which I never watched. I think a lot of kids didn't, but just said they did to act cool.

I think it's really cool how you actually said that. I probably would be too afraid. And the older you get, the harder it gets to tell others. :/

Nom Pop - That's exactly what I've done so many times. Even to teachers.
When I think something's wrong, I tell 'em. But then I'm "being rude" and then I get in trouble. Ridiculous. "Freedom of speech" basically means "You are allowed to talk about everything, except ... [long list]"

Almost makes you afraid to say a thing, but I'll continue doing so.
And I'll always follow my heart. :)

Rebma - So you're bi? It sounds super scary telling your family about it.
My mom would be ok with it, but I'm not sure about my dad.

But I doubt worrying about that now is going to do any good.
I'm happy being me. And I'll accept anything that'll happen in the future.
If only I'd fell in love sometime so I'd finally know the answer.
:roll:

Mr. Black - Reminds me of that homosexual guy who was given aids by two other guys (not through sex, I think it was a needle or something - could have been another disease too, I'm not too sure) for being gay.
I was really sad to hear that. It's ridiculous and sick.
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Postby lordcooper » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:27 pm

lol year 10 of school, not 10 years old! That would have made me umm 14
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Postby *Wiro » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:30 pm

lordcooper wrote:lol year 10 of school, not 10 years old! That would have made me umm 14


Oh, well, I don't understand how that works.
Here we have 8 years and then another 5.

14 is even harder, that's when everyones "supposed to fall in love with someone of the opposit sex". You should never try to force love, like I did in the past. Love happens. And you shouldn't ever try to stop it. :)
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Postby lordcooper » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:34 pm

Completely agreeing with you there Wiro.
But in the meantime, fun times :)
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Postby Dudel » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:35 pm

(Random) Dudel's sister is 'gay/bi' and I was the absolute first person she told. She was jokeing but I did belive her and we have always been the best of friends. :D (She's my sibling we gota be friends!)

And the whoal Wiro might be gay thing... not a shocker there. (Not an insult just makes sence via Wiro says: "I forgot I was a boy" And I've never ever seen nor heard of a straight male vegitite.)

Personally I've never been attracted to male. It seems to me like being 'gay' (Hate that word its too primitive) would make life easier if you found someone. Stright guys get to the finish line and its like <i>WhadaIdo? WhadaIdo?</i>

'Gay' guys/gals get there and they know exactally which buttons to press. :lol: (Sorry)

But finding people is difficulte no matter your sexual orientation.

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This is awsome!

Its still too cold! *shivers* Where is my soup? Oh I have to make it myself... oh dang it. *slumps and shuffels into the kitchen*

Note: Pardon me being a little... um... not cool with the wording.

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