Thought or Rant of the day!!!

[Dudel]

But why does the ability to smash something else to a pulp make you superior to it?

That my friend is human nature and it can not be changed. I do not know the answer to it. I sapose that the answer is Darwin? Survial of the fittest, strongest, and most likly to smash?

It will be our downfall!

Note: What Dudel says isn't always how he actually feals. Killing for the sake of it is NOT COOL! Why would you kill the male anyway you need it to make more cows? I just like to contridict things, even the things I say, its my nature. I don't see anything wrong with letting things live at all. I am saying that if I have the ability to kill it and I'm hungry that animal better watch its back! Especially if I'm naked as well. Plus I'm going after easier pray then a full grown bull. Now another thing if that animal agro's me and I feal I have been minding my own bussiness it better hope to god or w/e animals have that it kills me cause I'm going to kill it. That goes for people as well.

WHOO! That was a rant if I ever saw one!

[lordcooper]

Kind of true, I guess.
I've never eaten meat in my life, but if I was starving to death I'd kill and eat an animal (or a human) with no qualms at all.

[Rebma]

I am not spoilded. Room temp is 76 not 70 where did you get that? I'm not complaining about it being cold. I'm complaining that it switches from hot to cold and back again several times a week. I don't care if it stays an even temp of 5F s long as it stays that way and is not up in the 20's the next day and back down to 5 again.

Cause the temp here goes 65 to 82 thats a big jump for <b>ONE DAY!</b> Then its back to 66 the next day etc. This makes my sinuses 'wig out' other then that I don't care.

If that makes me spoiled then so be it. Spoiled is Dudel!

Aw sorry Dudel I was playin around. Didn't mean to offend you bud! When I did my refrigeration apprentiship(which is a North American certification) we were taught 68-72 is room temp. Its also pretty standard in Canada.

And again being from CA, I know exatly how much weather changes! We had a day at what would be 78F last week, immediately followed by a slight snowfall and like 15F the next day, then back up to the 50's. It drives me nuts too bud.

Been sick with chest colds and pneumonia on and off for a week. (Again, sorry for any offense you took to my spoiled statement, it was all in good fun, and any canadians or americans from the northern states will see why too )

[Dudel]

Aw sorry Dudel I was playin around. Didn't mean to offend you bud! When I did my refrigeration apprentiship(which is a North American certification) we were taught 68-72 is room temp. Its also pretty standard in Canada.

And again being from CA, I know exatly how much weather changes! We had a day at what would be 78F last week, immediately followed by a slight snowfall and like 15F the next day, then back up to the 50's. It drives me nuts too bud.

Been sick with chest colds and pneumonia on and off for a week. (Again, sorry for any offense you took to my spoiled statement, it was all in good fun, and any canadians or americans from the northern states will see why too )

Dudel does not get offended. He simply said that if wanting consistant weather was being spoiled then yes Dudel was spoiled. I guess room temp for everyone is diffrent. My whaol family northern and southern all keep it at a nice 76F. I'll proly do the same when I get my own place too.

I'm not as misfortunate to have pneumonia but I get head colds, ear infections, sinus infections, and my favorite the death that is the mucus throut. (Sinus infection in the throut causes a sore throut and stomach flue symptoms without having stomach flue. Don't know what to call it, thats just what my mother use to call it when I was a kid and still call it that to this date.) Lucky for me today is nothing more then a simple sinus failure nothing serious but yesterday...OI! And the day before that...OI GEEZ! Dudel is fine now.

Again Dudel did not nor has he yet to be offended by anyone on this forum. Dudel just says and does his things. (Don't mind the third person thing)

[NaruShadow]

I enjoy reading Dudel's references to himself in the third person

[Missy]

You people should watch the lion king if your 7th grade science classes failed to teach you about the circles of life. We=animal. We eat an animal. We die. A worm or grub eats our insides. The bird eats the worm. The bird shits out some nice looking goo that happens to fertilize the grass. The cow eats the grass. We kill the cow and eat it. We die and hey, sometimes it's even because a bear wanted our weinees at the fire pit. Etc etc etc.

[Dudel]

I enjoy reading Dudel's references to himself in the third person

I don't quite know why I do it. Its something that just clicks in my brain saying type Dudel instead of I. Oh well Dudel does what he does I guess.

Well...Dudel knows why he says Dudel and not I but I think it best to keep it to himself...myself.

(Now anyone who sees a char and knows its me might be able to read more into the char...or myself. You know who you are!)

<u>EDIT cause it was awsome!</u>

You people should watch the lion king if your 7th grade science classes failed to teach you about the circles of life. We=animal. We eat an animal. We die. A worm or grub eats our insides. The bird eats the worm. The bird shits out some nice looking goo that happens to fertilize the grass. The cow eats the grass. We kill the cow and eat it. We die and hey, sometimes it's even because a bear wanted our weinees at the fire pit. Etc etc etc.

[SekoETC]

"Homerkles cares not for beans!"

I'll have to travel tomorrow and don't know how much I'll be getting online. I won't say not at all because I think someone will bring a laptop and my brother will bring his USB Internet thingy but I'll certainly be online less than usual from Friday to Sunday.

[*Wiro]

Wiro your right I do not care how the animal lives or dies. Thats because I as a human am the superior and untill those cows can pick up a weapon and fight for themselves I'm still going to eat them.

Aw but I do respect them. I simply said that untill they can stop me from eating them I'm going to eat them. Also I'm an animal lover myself, animals don't judge or try to shove their idelioglogies down your throut.

That doesn't sound like respect at all, to be honest. No one in this world deserves a painful death or a live without happiness.

@Missy - I have no problem with hunting animals and stuff like it happened long ago. But the way it works now is just wrong, that's what annoys me.

[Gran]

That's what lethal injection is for, Wiro. >>

And I disagree, not everyone needs a nice life. A happy life is actually unnatural to most of living beings.

The pursue of a good life is wonderful, but the concept of nice life can be twisted by some pathological people and pain *still is* the nicest form of punishement. I disaprove the idea of hatred for criminals, denying their reasons or problems, however punishement is needed.

When it comes to animals, since early they are economical tools, potential to earn money. Sad that they are living things. Since meat production cannot be stopped, they could at least enjoy a better life and have a calm death (my hope is that artificial meat can backup meat some where).

Still, I'm a "carnivore". I did give a shit and researched how meat comes to my table, saw a video about kosher making, researched. And that's also wht I respect vegetarians and vegans very much (ignoring the fact I usually argue with them oftenly because of ideology ).

Farming industry can be gruesome for many people, since few are used to the idea of killing animails, hunting or even farming itself. Now... I'm going to stop because I'm going to surely offend someone.

[SekoETC]

Animals suffer less if their throat is cut in one swift slash by a person the animal trusts. Or shooting the animal in the head first or hitting it with a big hammer might make it even better. It's awful that animals are packed in cars to be taken into strange places that smell of death. Animals should be killed one at a time within walking distance from home and so that wind doesn't carry the smell of blood to where the other animals are. The next animal should only be killed once the blood has been absorbed by the dirt so that it doesn't smell anymore. It's awfully sad killing an animal you've been raising ever since it was a baby and it trusts you. (I haven't done it myself but I've seen it on TV.)

[lordcooper]

Animals suffer less if their throat is cut in one swift slash by a person the animal trusts.

Totally, if I was gonna be killed, I'd much rather it be by someone I trusted

[SekoETC]

The point is the animal won't be afraid because it's being held by someone it trusts and it has probably never seen a knife so it doesn't know what it can do or that it's sharp.

[Dudel]

"Homerkles cares not for beans!"

I'll have to travel tomorrow and don't know how much I'll be getting online. I won't say not at all because I think someone will bring a laptop and my brother will bring his USB Internet thingy but I'll certainly be online less than usual from Friday to Sunday.

Don't know who Homerkles is but that sounds amusing. It is sad that you can't play as much but hey. They will still be there when you get back.

That doesn't sound like respect at all, to be honest.

Then you and I would not be very good friends because thats the most respect you'll ever get form Dudel. Humans get even less respect then animals do.

But I'll clerify...again. I respect that these animals exsist. I respect that it sucks they have to die so I can eat. I respect that death no matter how it comes is not fun for the deathe and shouldn't be fun for the deather. I respect that animals do their thing and <b>mind their own damn bussiness.</b> I respect that other humans are trying to do what they feal what is right by the animal. I also respect you having an opinion on the matter and don't mind discussing it.

<u>HOWEVER</u>

I don't respect killing for the sake of killing. I don't respect 'inhumane' forms of killing be it human or animal. (I am a fan of capital punishment, my brain says that an eye for an eye is the most 'humane' you can get) I don't respect it when people assume that I'm some sort of monster because I like my meat. (It tastes good and I need my protine) I don't respect being grouped in with butchers and slaughterers because it don't matter to me how the meat got to my plate and I do know how it gets on my plate. (It's not always pretty and sometimes its down right disgusting)

I don't respect you complaining about it. (Do something besides complain)

I don't respect you attacking people because they think that meat is meat end of story. (I'm going to eat my meat and I have no qualms with you not eating it and if we were eating in the same area I would get fish or something.)

I don't respect that you copn' a tude while Dudel is giving his honest opinion. (Dudel did not cop a tude with you, I am now)

I also don't respect that you do not seem to grasp Dudel's points. (Because Dudel clearly graps yours)

Okay now if you still do not know where Dudel is coming from...you never will.

Note: Ending the vegitite v meatite discussion because its clearly getting no where and people are starting to repeat themselves. (Dudel dosn't like to repeat himself!)

[*Wiro]

I'm sure we'd be good friends. I love discussing things. And I appreciate that not everyone just accepts what I say. Some people do that, and I don't like it. Because I can be heck of a bitch (oops, forgot I was male again) sometimes.

So, yeah. Let's stop this endless discussion. You just keep eating meat, but don't even consider supporting hurting animals, ever.
I will stop complaining about this now. And not gonna be mean anymore. ever... Ok.. Sometimes I will but.. :O

Fin.