Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Rebma · Postby **Rebma** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:16 pm

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

If you have a few spare hours watch the one on the left, ADDENDUM. Its about money, keeping in with the current subject.

Also it may be describing the US, but it happens EVERYWHERE folks!

Go Bildenberg(sp? i can't spell) Group!

Dudel · Postby **Dudel** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:31 pm

I hate Florida!

Hot,cold,hot,cold,hot,cold

With my sinus issues and this hot to cold quick change, OI does it mess with me. Pollen when its hot and of course a cold when its cold. BLAH!

Rebma · Postby **Rebma** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:35 pm

Wait... Florida gets cold? lol. I remember Florida in october as being nice and warm and NOT HUMID WOOT each year I went!

Dudel · Postby **Dudel** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:29 pm

Rebma19 wrote:Wait... Florida gets cold? lol. I remember Florida in october as being nice and warm and NOT HUMID WOOT each year I went!

It gets cold for me...born here so cold is 70 degrees...and its always humid! Where did you go?

Nom Pop · Postby **Nom Pop** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:33 pm

wiro, I lied to someone and thought I was gonna lose them. But things are alright again. Thanks for your interest.

So what are we gonna do about those carnivores ^-^ let's find a room somewhere and lock them up or something. No more buying meat, whoooo.

*Wiro · Postby *Wiro » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:40 pm

Glad to hear that.

And I have nothing against Carnivores. It's the fact people don't give a shit about how the meat was made. They don't care about the trash they keep eating and they don't care about how innocent animals LIVE to DIE.

I know some people who where vegetarians in the past and started eating meat again later. But only from the ___ something butcher. (I only know the dutch word) Basically meat from animals who had a "better" life. (I don't trust it. >_>;;)

Locking the meanies up would be pretty nice. Then let's force them to eat themself! OOOH I KNOW! Lets put a chain around their neck and attach it to the ground so they're unable to move. And then feed them once a day. But nothing to drink.
And once they're fat, we'll slaughter one of 'em and force the others to eat him/her.

Dudel · Postby **Dudel** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:58 pm

*Wiro wrote:And I have nothing against Carnivores. It's the fact people don't give a shit about how the meat was made. They don't care about the trash they keep eating and they don't care about how innocent animals LIVE to DIE.

I know some people who where vegetarians in the past and started eating meat again later. But only from the ___ something butcher. (I only know the dutch word) Basically meat from animals who had a "better" life. (I don't trust it. >_>;;)

Locking the meanies up would be pretty nice. Then let's force them to eat themself! OOOH I KNOW! Lets put a chain around their neck and attach it to the ground so they're unable to move. And then feed them once a day. But nothing to drink.
And once they're fat, we'll slaughter one of 'em and force the others to eat him/her.

Okay I've been ignoring the 'carnivore' comments but I think this one crossed a line.

Putting this on my Dudeism list so everyone knows:
I don't care what you do just keep it off my lawn.

That means: Do what you will but as soon as you try to shove your crap down my throught we got a big problem. That problem being you!

I have no problem with vegitairans and they don't look sickly. Vegans look half dead but thats just my opinion. I've gone on vegtable 'binges' but boy do I love me some meat!

Wiro your right I do not care how the animal lives or dies. Thats because I as a human am the superior and untill those cows can pick up a weapon and fight for themselves I'm still going to eat them.

OH and I honestly have no problem with anyone in forum so please don't go all agro on my comments.

*Wiro · Postby *Wiro » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:03 pm

What I said about humans is the same thing humans do to animals.
I understand how you like meat. And respect that. But I don't respect the fact you don't respect animals.

Any living being deserves a happy life. Wether the end is tragic or not.
And I don't understand how eating them has to do with the life they had before you eat them.

A question: What sounds better to eat? A tortured lamb who got lots of sick food to get fat easily or a lamb that lived happily and healthy?

I do agree with you about veganism though. There's no need not to eat animal products anymore. (At least not here in the Netherlands) And I love milk. Just HATE how they hide gelatine and stuff in sweets.

Dudel · Postby **Dudel** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:23 pm

*Wiro wrote:What I said about humans is the same thing humans do to animals.
I understand how you like meat. And respect that. But I don't respect the fact you don't respect animals.

Aw but I do respect them. I simply said that untill they can stop me from eating them I'm going to eat them. Also I'm an animal lover myself, animals don't judge or try to shove their idelioglogies down your throut.

*Wiro wrote:Any living being deserves a happy life. Wether the end is tragic or not.
And I don't understand how eating them has to do with the life they had before you eat them.

Happy life is always good...agree. Also ask same question you did only diffrent. Does it matter if they have a happy life if their just gona be dinner? (Not how I actually feal just responding logically)

*Wiro wrote:A question: What sounds better to eat? A tortured lamb who got lots of sick food to get fat easily or a lamb that lived happily and healthy?

If that meat ain't tainted I don't care how the animal was treated. What Dudel don't know won't hurt him.

Wouldn't that make the lamb cheaper if it was porly treated during life?

*Wire wrote:I do agree with you about veganism though. There's no need not to eat animal products anymore. (At least not here in the Netherlands) And I love milk. Just HATE how they hide gelatine and stuff in sweets.

Need your protine...My body craves protine to an alarming extent, only eating eggs and soy beans will actually make me ill. (Not enough protine in eithor) Avoid sugery sweets cause they are bad for ya. Do enjoy them just really really try to avoid.

lordcooper · Postby **lordcooper** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:47 am

I can respect all of that except this part:

*Dudel wrote:Wiro your right I do not care how the animal lives or dies. Thats because I as a human am the superior and untill those cows can pick up a weapon and fight for themselves I'm still going to eat them.

Why would being more developed in the ways of violence make us superior?
Also, try taking down a bull then :p

Rebma · Postby **Rebma** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:55 am

Dudel wrote:
Rebma19 wrote:Wait... Florida gets cold? lol. I remember Florida in october as being nice and warm and NOT HUMID WOOT each year I went!

It gets cold for me...born here so cold is 70 degrees...and its always humid! Where did you go?

I was in Tampa, Orlando, St. Petersburg, Sarasota....You do realize 70 F is fucking room temperature right?!?Actually two degrees warmer than room temp, which is 68 F. LOL.

You, Dudel, are spoiled with warm temperatures. It a semi-chilly, but comfortable temperature of 6 C here, which for you american's and non-metric users is about 42-43 F. And its only gonna get colder! In winter, WITHOUT wind chill last winter we averaged like, -15 C (5F). With windchill..don't even get me started!

Spoiled Dudel, purely spoiled!

Money · Postby **Money** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:00 am

For me 10-13?C is comfortable.

Dudel · Postby **Dudel** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:11 am

Two things:

ONE:

lordcooper wrote:Why would being more developed in the ways of violence make us superior?
Also, try taking down a bull then :p

If I have a wepon I could take down a bull. I wouldn't but I could.
Now to counter act your statement. Ever seen an alien invsion movie of any kind? We usually win but thats because humans wrote it. I'm sure realisticly it would be the other way around. I think thats good...for now.

TWO

Rebma19 wrote:I was in Tampa, Orlando, St. Petersburg, Sarasota....You do realize 70 F is fucking room temperature right?!?Actually two degrees warmer than room temp, which is 68 F. LOL.

You, Dudel, are spoiled with warm temperatures. It a semi-chilly, but comfortable temperature of 6 C here, which for you american's and non-metric users is about 42-43 F. And its only gonna get colder! In winter, WITHOUT wind chill last winter we averaged like, -15 C (5F). With windchill..don't even get me started!

Spoiled Dudel, purely spoiled!

I am not spoilded. Room temp is 76 not 70 where did you get that? I'm not complaining about it being cold. I'm complaining that it switches from hot to cold and back again several times a week. I don't care if it stays an even temp of 5F s long as it stays that way and is not up in the 20's the next day and back down to 5 again.

Cause the temp here goes 65 to 82 thats a big jump for ONE DAY! Then its back to 66 the next day etc. This makes my sinuses 'wig out' other then that I don't care.

If that makes me spoiled then so be it. Spoiled is Dudel!

lordcooper · Postby **lordcooper** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:16 am

Depends to be honest. A bull can still be mostly unharmed after several shods to the head with a pistol. Sharp weapons wouldn't work either as you'd have little time to use them as it charges you. A sledgehammer would do the job, if you had chance to swing it...

But why does the ability to smash something else to a pulp make you superior to it?

Severine · Postby **Severine** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:26 am

I would kill for 70 degrees and a little sun right now. I live in Seattle, we're in the 30's to 40's and we've had rain for two straight weeks. No wait, we had a few hours of sun on Saturday. Anyways, my dogs have been cooped up inside and are driving me crazy!

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