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Postby trage » Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:53 am

Well to be honest I am not entirely convinced that what your saying is based on Sumerian relgion. Than again I don't even know who the Sumerians are......
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Postby Pirog » Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:59 am

Well to be honest I am not entirely convinced that what your saying is based on Sumerian relgion. Than again I don't even know who the Sumerians are......


The Sumerians lived pretty much where Iraq is today.
They can be described as the first culture, the first civilisation.
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Postby Meh » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:00 am

A civilization that was wiped out by snow hence the rise of the Winterians. :lol:

Serious. Another of a set of the oldest know civilzations. I like the Zorastrians (sp?) myself they are the root civilization for the concept of magic.
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Postby Pirog » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:04 am

Meh>

:P
The Sumerian culture can date back as far as 5900 b.c.
If I haven't missed anything vital there are no other known cultures from that far back...
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Postby trage » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:04 am

Sorry Pirog I will have to do a little research on this before I can actually truely answer you about the Great Flood.
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Postby Pirog » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:06 am

trage>

Do so...to bad that you don't know Swedish (or do you?), otherwise I would have a great book tip for you...
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Postby trage » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:13 am

No sadly I don't :(. I don't know how I would learn swedish in America. There are no middle school classes on it, and the high school I am going to go to doesn't have any on it either, and I don't think with the major I am going to take in college I could take it either..... I am sorry :(.
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Postby Pirog » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:16 am

Well...it would be a bit over ambitious to learn Swedish just to read this great book I have about this topic ;)
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Postby rklenseth » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:16 am

Pirog wrote:Lenseth>

But do you really consider it free will if you must live by his very words, believe in his outrageous stories or burn in hell?


Where does it say that? You won't burn in Hell. Only the wicked will burn in Hell. You don't have to believe in any of it. There are very few people who are evil in this world. There are people who do evil things but they aren't really evil.
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Postby Pirog » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:20 am

Lenseth>

But since I don't believe in god I must be wicked, right?
Or do I have a shot at heaven for living a good life without faith? ;)
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Postby kroner » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:20 am

rkl> Jake seems to be arguing otherwise and this is not a matter of who is right and who is wrong, merely on religion in general. If he believes that then it proves undoubtedly that some do take that interpretation which can be harmful in all the ways i've already said.
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Postby Meh » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:21 am

Favorite desription of modern time:

"It was about 2000 years after one man got nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be if people were nice to each other for a change."

-Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy series
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Postby Pirog » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:22 am

Meh>

Yeah, that is great :)
Damn...I loved that book. It is still the only book I have read where I have laughed out loud.
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Postby kroner » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:23 am

i love that little section.... at the beginning of so long and thanks for all the fish i think....
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Postby trage » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:25 am

Badger (rklenseth) wrote:
Pirog wrote:Lenseth>

But do you really consider it free will if you must live by his very words, believe in his outrageous stories or burn in hell?


Where does it say that? You won't burn in Hell. Only the wicked will burn in Hell. You don't have to believe in any of it. There are very few people who are evil in this world. There are people who do evil things but they aren't really evil.


Yes rkl is right. You won't burn in hell if you don't live by his words. When Jesus came by a prostitute who was being chased by the town's people he stopped them and asked them why they were chasing this lady. They told Jesus that she was a prostitute and said they were going to stone her to death. Jesus told them that the one who is without sin shall cast the first stone. Slowly the people understood and left one by one. Than he told the lady to go and turn from her sinful life.

See Jesus offered her salvation for her sins. She was not following god's words before and Jesus helped her on the path to righteousness, and all god wants you to do to be saved is to believe that Jesus was his son and he died for your sins as I have said before. God offers us all the chance to save our souls and not burn in hell. I would suggest to any of you who haven't read the book of revelations to pick up the "left behind" series of books. It is I think 10 books long so far each about 300 pages, but they are very good books and go in depth into the book of revelations.
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