Olympic Mafia - Game Over! GOOD WINS!
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Sparkle
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mikki
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saztronic
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*sighs*
Let's look at this logically, folks.
First. I have been clearly and outspokenly admonishing people to stop being silly and focus on finding evil folks from day one. That was bound to draw mafia attention to myself.
Second. On day two, I accused trexdino and Sparkle outright of being evil. No one else came out with so clear or so strong a claim. That night, frenchfisher, the Hero, was killed -- I believe while protecting me.
Third. Then trexdino voted for me, for no logical reason. He only says it was because I was "quiet". He didn't vote for joo, or Bowser, or anyone else who was quiet. I think it was because the mafia failed to get me in the night, and he was kicking off an attempt to lynch me. Further proof that he is working with evil.
Fourth. I checked Bowser and it paid off. Given our burning need to lynch someone evil today or lose everything, I revealed my role. Note that I did so before Bowser issued his counterclaim. This is vital. If he is good, and truly Zeus, and truly had checked in the night and found I was evil, then why did he wait until after I revealed to make this claim? There is no justifiable reason for this. Immediately after I made my claim, though, he came out with his bogus and frankly, far less believable story.
Fifth. Now Sparkle -- someone I have also suspected from the beginning -- is also voting for me, along with Bowser and trexdino.
Unless everyone else votes for Bowser, you are about to lose your Detective, Olympos, and Tang all in one fell swoop. Evil have revealed themselves for what they are. Make them pay for it. Or vote for me, and everyone dies. Your choice.
*he turns to Sparkle* As for you, my evil bitch daughter -- were I to remove my loincloth, the immensity of my godhood would blot out the sun. We have enough problems as it is.
Let's look at this logically, folks.
First. I have been clearly and outspokenly admonishing people to stop being silly and focus on finding evil folks from day one. That was bound to draw mafia attention to myself.
Second. On day two, I accused trexdino and Sparkle outright of being evil. No one else came out with so clear or so strong a claim. That night, frenchfisher, the Hero, was killed -- I believe while protecting me.
Third. Then trexdino voted for me, for no logical reason. He only says it was because I was "quiet". He didn't vote for joo, or Bowser, or anyone else who was quiet. I think it was because the mafia failed to get me in the night, and he was kicking off an attempt to lynch me. Further proof that he is working with evil.
Fourth. I checked Bowser and it paid off. Given our burning need to lynch someone evil today or lose everything, I revealed my role. Note that I did so before Bowser issued his counterclaim. This is vital. If he is good, and truly Zeus, and truly had checked in the night and found I was evil, then why did he wait until after I revealed to make this claim? There is no justifiable reason for this. Immediately after I made my claim, though, he came out with his bogus and frankly, far less believable story.
Fifth. Now Sparkle -- someone I have also suspected from the beginning -- is also voting for me, along with Bowser and trexdino.
Unless everyone else votes for Bowser, you are about to lose your Detective, Olympos, and Tang all in one fell swoop. Evil have revealed themselves for what they are. Make them pay for it. Or vote for me, and everyone dies. Your choice.
*he turns to Sparkle* As for you, my evil bitch daughter -- were I to remove my loincloth, the immensity of my godhood would blot out the sun. We have enough problems as it is.
I kill threads. It's what I do.
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trexdino
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*he turns to Money* Yes, these are fresh.
*he turns back to Saztronic* First of all, I voted you because you were quiet, yes. That is because this late in the game, we cannot afford to have people sleeping. If you were good, you would see my logic in that, for the first two days we were not as close to being defeated as we are now.
And it makes since that he reveals after you claim Zues, because he had no wish to be killed during the night. You faked a reveal to get me to move my vote, and you knew you would not be killed during the night.
Also if you truely were Zues, I think you would know how to pronouce your kingdom's name. It is not "Olympos", but it is Olympus.
*he turns back to Saztronic* First of all, I voted you because you were quiet, yes. That is because this late in the game, we cannot afford to have people sleeping. If you were good, you would see my logic in that, for the first two days we were not as close to being defeated as we are now.
And it makes since that he reveals after you claim Zues, because he had no wish to be killed during the night. You faked a reveal to get me to move my vote, and you knew you would not be killed during the night.
Also if you truely were Zues, I think you would know how to pronouce your kingdom's name. It is not "Olympos", but it is Olympus.
When you hope for something, you often believe in something. When you believe in something, you often have pride in it. Being proud often leads to a hating of some group.
As you can see, the Jedi are hypocrites.
As you can see, the Jedi are hypocrites.
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Sparkle
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You can think what you want of me. I am good and I would sacrifice myself to help another good. If I believed you I would agree with you, but I don't...not yet anyway. For now...
unvote Saz
There is still one thing I need to know from Both of you before I lock in my vote. Before night fall Bowser you were voting for Mikki so why not check her? Saztronic same question. You were voting for me, so why not check me? I find it very odd that you both just so happen to check each other...that is the only reason I need to think about this some more.
unvote Saz
There is still one thing I need to know from Both of you before I lock in my vote. Before night fall Bowser you were voting for Mikki so why not check her? Saztronic same question. You were voting for me, so why not check me? I find it very odd that you both just so happen to check each other...that is the only reason I need to think about this some more.
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Dogonabun
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*He glares at Sparkle*
Scum. Shifting your votes.. And not voting Bowser, the scum.
*He shakes his head*
Saz has given all evidence to the truth that he is good. 100% good, in all respects. And so Bowser is evil. 100% evil. He revealed that he found Saz as guilty only AFTER? *He sighs*
You're all overdramatic. You want us to win, against all odds, against a 1 in a million chance. Why not actually win and vote for Bowser?
Scum. Shifting your votes.. And not voting Bowser, the scum.
*He shakes his head*
Saz has given all evidence to the truth that he is good. 100% good, in all respects. And so Bowser is evil. 100% evil. He revealed that he found Saz as guilty only AFTER? *He sighs*
You're all overdramatic. You want us to win, against all odds, against a 1 in a million chance. Why not actually win and vote for Bowser?
Stupidity is relative.
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mikki
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*she listens intently* I can see why you would say that Dog, and I am not defending anyone.. But maybe Bowser didn't get a chance to say anything.. *shrugs* And Sparkle does have a point.. *she looks at Bowser* Since you voted for me yesterday, why would you not check me last night? Why would you choose to look at Saz? *she looks at Saz* You were so set on Sparkle.. Why would you at the last minute decide to check Bowser? This confuses me.. And until I hear from the two of you, I will not vote..
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saztronic
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The answer to Sparkle's question is really quite simple.
As I said, I was already quite convinced that trexdino and Sparkle were evil. Certainly trexdino at the least. And after Toon was lynched and turned out to be good, I was even more convinced.
So, feeling that way, why waste a night detecting them? If I verified what I already suspected was true, then I would just end up fingering the obvious, and in a day or two we'd be right back where we started -- not knowing who else to trust, and with me already dead, assuming I revealed.
I knew we needed to find someone else, someone who wasn't making it so obvious, to have hope of winning. I looked at the remaining gods, and it struck me that Bowser was, first of all, voting rather randomly -- I mean, why vote for mikki at all yesterday? He never really gave a reason, he just seemed to be trying to stay above the fray. Why? Second of all, the frequency and nature of his comments seemed to confirm this impression -- that he was trying to avoid saying much at all, hanging back, surveying the scene. I found this suspicious, and my suspicions turned out to be right.
End of story. It was a reasoned and reasonable surmise.
As I said, I was already quite convinced that trexdino and Sparkle were evil. Certainly trexdino at the least. And after Toon was lynched and turned out to be good, I was even more convinced.
So, feeling that way, why waste a night detecting them? If I verified what I already suspected was true, then I would just end up fingering the obvious, and in a day or two we'd be right back where we started -- not knowing who else to trust, and with me already dead, assuming I revealed.
I knew we needed to find someone else, someone who wasn't making it so obvious, to have hope of winning. I looked at the remaining gods, and it struck me that Bowser was, first of all, voting rather randomly -- I mean, why vote for mikki at all yesterday? He never really gave a reason, he just seemed to be trying to stay above the fray. Why? Second of all, the frequency and nature of his comments seemed to confirm this impression -- that he was trying to avoid saying much at all, hanging back, surveying the scene. I found this suspicious, and my suspicions turned out to be right.
End of story. It was a reasoned and reasonable surmise.
I kill threads. It's what I do.
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Bowser
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saztronic wrote:*noticing that he is a frog, he tranforms into a hedgehog, then an anteater, a wolf, an anaconda, a preying mantis, a tiger, and finally, a giant shimmering swan, before settling into his regular robe and mask again*
Fun with animal tricks.
Gee, if there is any clue who is the shape shifting Cerberus, I don't what is
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saztronic
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Let me also address trexdino's weak claims:
I wasn't sleeping, I was watching, trexdino, and watching specifically to see what you would do. Your reason is weak and on examination, also ridiculous. There are several here who said nothing after the dawn of the third day. You did not list them and then choose one. You did not state your concern that this late in the game no one could afford to sleep. You just said I'd been quiet awhile, and boom, a vote, the first of the day, and unfortuantely for you, precipitously revealing.
Actually, this makes no sense at all. Not in the slightest. We all agree that we MUST lynch someone evil today, or the game is over. Your argument can be true only if Bowser, as Zeus, valued his own life more than Tang's -- more than the cause of Good itself. Otherwise he would reveal his findings as soon as possible, not hang back worrying about his individual fate.
This is my favorite, and proof that you have no leg to stand on. I'm lying because... of the way I spell? And in any case, Olympos is a commonly used variation of Olympus, you malicious mafia scum.
trexdino wrote:*he turns back to Saztronic* First of all, I voted you because you were quiet, yes. That is because this late in the game, we cannot afford to have people sleeping. If you were good, you would see my logic in that, for the first two days we were not as close to being defeated as we are now.
I wasn't sleeping, I was watching, trexdino, and watching specifically to see what you would do. Your reason is weak and on examination, also ridiculous. There are several here who said nothing after the dawn of the third day. You did not list them and then choose one. You did not state your concern that this late in the game no one could afford to sleep. You just said I'd been quiet awhile, and boom, a vote, the first of the day, and unfortuantely for you, precipitously revealing.
trexdino wrote:And it makes since that he reveals after you claim Zues, because he had no wish to be killed during the night.
Actually, this makes no sense at all. Not in the slightest. We all agree that we MUST lynch someone evil today, or the game is over. Your argument can be true only if Bowser, as Zeus, valued his own life more than Tang's -- more than the cause of Good itself. Otherwise he would reveal his findings as soon as possible, not hang back worrying about his individual fate.
trexdino wrote:Also if you truely were Zues, I think you would know how to pronouce your kingdom's name. It is not "Olympos", but it is Olympus.
This is my favorite, and proof that you have no leg to stand on. I'm lying because... of the way I spell? And in any case, Olympos is a commonly used variation of Olympus, you malicious mafia scum.
I kill threads. It's what I do.
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saztronic
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Bowser wrote:saztronic wrote:*noticing that he is a frog, he tranforms into a hedgehog, then an anteater, a wolf, an anaconda, a preying mantis, a tiger, and finally, a giant shimmering swan, before settling into his regular robe and mask again*
Fun with animal tricks.
Gee, if there is any clue who is the shape shifting Cerberus, I don't what is
Excellent, Bowser!
Thank you for reminding me of this. When I transformed into these animals, I purposely gave a very subtle, but very clear clue as to my role as Zeus for any who were paying attention.
Note the last form I took, and the most clearly described -- a giant, shimmering swan. *he gets a far off look in his eye, reminiscing* It was when I took the beautiful Leda for my own that I used the shape of a swan to ravish her. I have always been partial to it. I believe the mortals have memorialized this fine tale of Zeus' -- my -- masculine prowess, with a story called "Leda and the Swan".
I kill threads. It's what I do.
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Sparkle
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mikki
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*she scratches her head* Bowser, how is that answering my question? I specifically asked you why you would vote for me last night, and then decide to check out Saz and instead of answering the question, you make a comment about Saz? *shakes her head* You sound 100% evil.. *she takes a deep breath and speaks quietly* Almighty Tang please dont let me be wrong on this...
Vote Bowser
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Money
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Bowser
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Day one, I voted to lynch mikki. I was the only one and it was a vote with no proof behind it. At night, I decided to investigate Sparkles. I see nothing wrong with investigating someone else.
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