What can God never see?

[Dogonabun]

I know Allah is a different god, but they're very similar religions.

[CantrFreak]

I am a christian and I admit that many people today(especially the US) arn't committed to their religion. They call themselves christians, but I don't believe they are. There are some people out there who actually try to do what they believe God says we are supposed to.

Are you saying that it is impossibleto build a boat that can hold all the animals?

Tell me, how many types of animals are there? Now multiply that by two. Oh, and I'm saying species. Like all the types of cats, lions, etc.

You think it is wierd that we call our god God? There is no other name that can describe him better. What do you think we'd call him? Bob?

Did I say that was wierd?

Also, you say that you think the Bible is just a lot of stuff that happened and it tell sus what we need to do? That is what it is supposed to be. It's a book of what happened and how someone lived a perfect life and died to forgive us of our sins. It give us many example of what we are supposed to do.

I seriously forgot why I said that. xD But I bet you do commit some of those sins or whatever. Trust me. You probably do.

I'm sorry so many people in the US are hypocritical and racist. That is how a lot of people are, but not everyone.

-_- I'm not talking about those people who openly say they hate those other people. I'm talking about those people who say they hate rascism and are it themselves. For example the American government, people in your class, etc. Most likely you're white/black so haven't noticed it. Its more focused on Asians nowadays.

I'm 15 and I've thought of this much, I ain't a scientist or a great person that studies the Bible ,but I've figured this much out. But I know I can't explain every little thing.

[buddyhall]

Well to be honest Allah is not a different God at all he's the same guy it's just a difference in beliefs as to how god intended us to live .

[formerly known as hf]

Gah.

Can people be so unquestioning, so satisfied with not knowing the world that a supernatural force is so readily accepted?

We no longer need God to explain to us the universe in which we live anymore than we need rain dances and natural spirits for our crops to grow or incantations to ward off disease.

Turning the question on its head. Can people create and maintain such a weighty (some say, even mighty) yet increasingly unwieldy concept such as that of God and not be able to (or be unwilling to) lift it and see beyond?

[Gran]

You can allways say that gods were aliens who genetically modified humans.Hahahah.

thus a creator and the bible is basiclly like Humanitys Survival scrolls.

Buddyhall, I didn't got much of you, but I can answer this.A creator and a holy book may give you a fake feeling of security so you can sleep better, but they are not humanity survival guide.

Especially because after a religion becomes gianourmous, it just acts as a tool of power for insane lunatics who call off crusades and fake jihads for crazy beliefs or megalomania.

Allah is the name of a god of a different religion.

Allah is not the name of "a god".Is the name of your god, allah is just the translation of "god".Jews, Christian and Muslim worship the same god, still, they segregate, kill and fight each other like they were different especies.Actually, Jesus is the second greatest prophet of Islam, after Muhammad.

"God" best descript it for you because you speak english, but portuguese call it "deus", spanish "dios", arabs "allah".

Science is the search for facts, because, as philosophers may say, truth is relative.Science itself comes from the latin "proved knowledge".

what the bible tells oyu or like me you can believe maybe god created the big bang maybe science is just the search for god.

Bible itself only says that god created everything in seven days, pulled out all species know today without any natural selection and that universe is 6.000 years old.

Current scientific data proves that it is aproximately 13 billion old.Bible can be doubted.

Faith may exist, but that it doesn't interfere in science.

[trexdino]

Well, I have two responses to that.

Maybe the fact that Earth was created in seven days is in God Days, which would be much different then our own.

Also, sinc eGod can create all of us, we would also be able to create a history without is occuring. Both may be correct, for not all has been revealed yet to us.

[Piscator]

Current scientific data proves that it is aproximately 13 billion old.

That only shows that the FSM buried the dinosaur skeletons very, very carefully. There is no reason why a creator couldn't create the universe old.

[Gran]

That only shows that the FSM buried the dinosaur skeletons very, very carefully. There is no reason why a creator couldn't create the universe old.

Yeah, you can believe so, I am not arguing with that.But Bible's universe theory is wrong, that is my point.

But creating a old universe create some implications.I would not be possible, by the far as I know, to speed up universe creation, it would destroy universe itself.But if this creator created a universe and false clues about it being old, than he is liar and a hipocrite for saying us to not lie and he deosn't give a shit because he want to be forgotten with all those clues.

Maybe the fact that Earth was created in seven days is in God Days, which would be much different then our own.

Yeah, once I thought like that. That only concludes he is lazy and has no sense of time. No problem with it

But these are "maybe"s and "if"s, we cannot prove in any way know by science that god exists, not by facts. Faith has the oposite methodological form of science: You do not need to prove anything, just believe it and everything will be okay.

We can't say what god can never see, because he cannot be proved to exist, so he cannot be proved to see anything at all.

[toon]

CantrFreak, tell me how it is impossible to build a boat that big. And I know I sin, everyone does. The only one on this earth that ever didn't was Jesus.

GranAttackker, Tell me this, if there was a flood, isn't it possible that the layers of dirt that scientists use to determine the age of the earth were shifted around and possibly very likely that the waters caused mant more roccks and everything to break down forming dirt and sand?

I believe the bible as it says I believe he created everything in 6 days.

[Piscator]

The problem with proofs is that you can't prove anything. Is gravity proven just because things fall down when you let them go? Not necessarily. Only one apple has to drop to the sky and the whole theory has at least to be extended.
In every proven fact is a little uncertainty, and that's the place where the gods hide.


Anyway, let's try to answer the original question. How about this:

God can't see what we believe him not to be able to see.

[trexdino]

Nice Piscator, FSM=Flying Spagetti Monster

[Gran]

Tell me this, if there was a flood, isn't it possible that the layers of dirt that scientists use to determine the age of the earth were shifted around and possibly very likely that the waters caused mant more roccks and everything to break down forming dirt and sand?

I doubt greatly.There are lots of ways to date fossils and rocks, like radio analysis, c14 and also, a flood in the surface may act on the thin layer of surface, but deep layers of earth still, and we alredy gone 9 km far under earth.

I believe the bible as it says I believe he created everything in 6 days.

You belive in what you want.Faith is faith...no facts.

[buddyhall]

edited sorry it was hard to understand see below.

Q:qeustion

A:answer.

[buddyhall]

Gah.

Q:Can people be so unquestioning, so satisfied with not knowing the world that a supernatural force is so readily accepted?
A:This is funny too me your just trying to be ignorant you believe the big bang thoery ?the whole universe was created from a tiny pea size ball of intense light that expanded . If you can believe that then why would it be so hard to go one step further and speculate that, that ball of light then came from somewhere or someone or something.??


Q:We no longer need God to explain to us the universe in which we live anymore than we need rain dances and natural spirits for our crops to grow or incantations to ward off disease.
A:You need god more than you know how welll would you fair in a world of rape and murder and no morale ethics??


Q:Turning the question on its head. Can people create and maintain such a weighty (some say, even mighty) yet increasingly unwieldy concept such as that of God and not be able to (or be unwilling to) lift it and see beyond?

A:

[toon]

Think, if the water bursted from the earth there was so much preassure, I'm sure there was enough of it to mess up some layers pretty deep in the ground.

And so now you are saying that an all-knowing all-powerful God can't bypass the laws of physics?