What can God never see?

Gran · Postby **Gran** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:45 pm

Well, if god exists, tha means he created blackholes, that will in a future consume all universe, including him...so I guess he couldn't see that and now is watching american idol waiting for the end.

SekoETC · Postby **SekoETC** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:16 pm

I always have good answers? Anyway, spirits aren't affected by gravity. Thus they cannot be sucked into black holes. The universe is a random number generator with a lot of variables. (I tend to say "vah-RAI-abbles" instead of "vary-abbles".) But... God cannot fall asleep. I assume that he can't. So he is unable to see dreams. Except if those dreams are seen by creatures. So God can only see the truth and cannot enjoy illusions because he knows where the rabbit came from etc.

Postby **Pilot** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:03 pm

I would say the back of his neck

or the world with my eyes....

Funny all answering to a bot anyway :lol:

Gran · Postby **Gran** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:05 pm

You see?That is a pretty good answer.But a spirit, as a non-matter form, must be made out of enery, and considering blackholes can suck light (event horizon thing, eh?) I think they can also suck god...except if he is made of a energy that has reverse gravity or something.

Is the universe going to implode or continue to explode?

Postby **Piscator** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:22 pm

I'm not convinced yet that it either does the one or the other.

Anyway. Why do you think a spirit has to be made of energy? Metaphysical beings don't have to follow physical laws.

Tiamo · Postby **Tiamo** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:43 pm

A creator can never be part of its own creation because it would have created itself then.

Of course that poses another question: who created the creator?

toon · Postby **toon** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:50 pm

No one. The creator has no beginning he has always been around.

Dogonabun · Postby **Dogonabun** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:59 pm

But why does there need to be a creator, then? If the creator always existed, then you could say everything else has always existed. So you could just cut out the middle man and say the world and everything in it has existed forever.

toon · Postby **toon** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:04 pm

So you jsut want to cut out the creator because he has always been there? and say that because he has always been there, what he has made has always been there?

Voltenion · Postby **Voltenion** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:40 pm

If the "art" has always been here, that would make the creator pointless... And that would leave no other option to the art than the suicide....

And God is God. He's God, with a big "g", if you know what I mean :wink:

So the blackhole thing is stupid...

God pwnz all the noobz(we) and all the l33tz (blackholes)!

toon · Postby **toon** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:44 pm

God can plug black holes up like Nerd's heads can plug toilets...

Gran · Postby **Gran** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:07 am

Ohhh, that is a good idea!

You may ask:"Why spirits would be matter?", but if not that, what would they be?Considering that if something to affect directly matter has to exist in a energical or material form, spirits should be made of energy.

A creator can never be part of its own creation because it would have created itself then.

The point is that the creator, did not, if he exists, created the energy that makes his own body or the creation.The artist may have made his artwork, but his brush, paint and pen were not made by him, he just organized and used in a different way.

Tiamo · Postby **Tiamo** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:57 am

Hmmm, if god is unique, why speak of 'him' in terms of gender? Why not speak of 'it', as an undescribable (to us) entity?

CantrFreak · Postby **CantrFreak** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:28 am

Are we seriously going into a theological debate here? Heck, might as well join in for the heck of it.

I do not think God exists. I think there may be a higher-being, or a type of "god" (notice I say god and not God) but a creator is highly unlikely though a higher being is possible. Its probably our minds need to have an explanation of the world or a higher being or something.

And they speak of "him" because the human race are basically sexist and consider men to be superior. They consider us superior to animals and everything. All this is based off of power. We think we're better than animals (even though we are) because we're stronger and smarter.

In fact, we're all idiots. We're destroying the world and all while all of us will have to suffer.

Wow, I got off topic.

buddyhall · Postby **buddyhall** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:04 am

Call me crazy but God would be the beginning so he didn't come from anywhere he was it the beginning,
Now as far as black holes I'm thinking since they turn on and off depending on the amount of matter maybe they are compensating for the ever expading universe by removing mass so it does not colapse on itself but that would be too easy trying to understand these concepts is not within our means it's like a caveman trying to figure out why the skys blue he has nothing to base his thesis on because his world is so small.

Like ants we are if we where to travel the speed of light we could leave our soalr system in about a day edge of the universe about 100 billion years i think at the speed of light then where would you be well I'm not sure but maybe then your could start to understand how far off we are from these answers.

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