Discussion on annoyances of characters

[Cdls]

To keep from moving the other topic (chars that irritate yours) discussion, I decided to open a new one to discuss the issues brought up in there.

Like things to seem real, yet Im sure you have no prob with some 40 year old char walking into town wearing no clothes and yet not even a single word is spoken about it. Or even the fact chars can handle raw meat and dung without washing their hands yet remain in perfect health. I can go on and on with examples of "false reality" but Im sure you get my point.

On the contrary, I've got a character who washes it's hands when it touches a dead body, absolutely disgusted by the idea of touching the dead. And I have a character who shaves it's beard. And I have a character who I would consider to be overly-emotional. A character who has bad knees. A homosexual (who I fail to portray very well at all in any sort of manner other than sleepy most times.) And I've even had a character with a speech impediment before, (one of the first I might add.)
And they all show these things, in moderation. They don't stand in the middle of town obnoxiously tooting their "Im a freak show. Mention me on the forum!" horns. Or the, "I'm so bored, I need something to do immediately in Cantr so I'll *Sigh* And when they ask me what's wrong I'll make up something that suits the character so that it's not obvious that the player behind it is bored and just looking for something to do/the player behind is the one with the real emotional problems/so the character doesn't look like it just wants attention."




I mean, how many retarded people do you know that so blatantly broadcast their problems to an entire town of people? Let me ask you how realistic it is for an Emo boy to go into a public place where they know absolutely NOONE, yet, and simply walk along and sigh? Trying to get people to notice them? Does that REALLY happen in the real world? I think I've missed it if it does. At least, they'd do it around people they knew, not people they didn't reallly know. Right? They'd want to hide stuff like that. Not throwing it all over on anyone who will even pretend to care......

You see you're using the argument that it's normal for people to be emo or obsessive compulsive and I totally agree with that. But these aren't the characters that are doing it so much as the players, I'm thinking. They're not even trying to portray obsessive compulsive characters. They're trying to portray something entirely different IF they're trying to portray anything at all.

As for time constraints....You can't say that. These people will swim, throw mud, argue, cry, scream, in a single cantr day. The next day is just the same. Every minute--something is posted, but it's nothing new. It's always something I've seen them do yesterday or the day before or twice on wednesday. Either they don't feel loved or needed to take a walk down by the shore and sigh a little. lol And tomorrow they'll be fighting with someone because they were offended. The next day crying because they don't feel like they belong.


Maybe my problem is more that it goes on way too much all across the board and not just in LV, lately. Every time I see one of these characters anymore I go into auto-avoid mode. Because I don't like the turmoil that goes on around them....It's just too much. I feel like these people need shrinks outside of the game. I feel like they're looking for something they can't get in the real world--And I don't mean that in a good way. It's actually very sad to me. I think they need help emotionally and mentally in their real lives.



Oh boy. I knew I was opening a can of worms posting what I was, but I can't help it anymore. It just annoys me and it makes cantr less fun for me. It just does. I'm sorry if it offends people. I feel overwhelmed by those sorts of characters.


It's like...Jerry springer, for me. Interesting because it's something really nuts....Then a couple shows go by and you realize that all the people on the show are really just trying to be the freakiest. See who can get more beads or see if anyone will notice them because they took their clothes off. It's just ew....to me. It's just not cool to be that screwed up.

[Cdls]

On the contrary, I've got a character who washes it's hands when it touches a dead body,

Okay, but do they all wash their hands, since you did claim you didn't want to be unrealistic.

And they all show these things, in moderation. They don't stand in the middle of town obnoxiously tooting their "Im a freak show. Mention me on the forum!" horns. Or the, "I'm so bored, I need something to do immediately in Cantr so I'll *Sigh* And when they ask me what's wrong I'll make up something that suits the character so that it's not obvious that the player behind it is bored and just looking for something to do/the player behind is the one with the real emotional problems/so the character doesn't look like it just wants attention."

I really dont think many players actually do that whole "mention me on the forums" bit, and if thats what they are playing for, then yes, your argument may be sound, but I really dont believe the majority do that, so I have to disagree.
I find the rest of that quote to be just you trying to take a personal stab at the players behind the characters that annoy you.

I mean, how many retarded people do you know that so blatantly broadcast their problems to an entire town of people? Let me ask you how realistic it is for an Emo boy to go into a public place where they know absolutely NOONE, yet, and simply walk along and sigh? Trying to get people to notice them? Does that REALLY happen in the real world? I think I've missed it if it does. At least, they'd do it around people they knew, not people they didn't reallly know. Right? They'd want to hide stuff like that. Not throwing it all over on anyone who will even pretend to care......

Do you live in the real world Missy, cause if you opened your eyes you could see many examples of that. Or maybe I just live in a part of the world where it is normal....

As for time constraints....You can't say that. These people will swim, throw mud, argue, cry, scream, in a single cantr day. The next day is just the same. Every minute--something is posted, but it's nothing new. It's always something I've seen them do yesterday or the day before or twice on wednesday. Either they don't feel loved or needed to take a walk down by the shore and sigh a little. lol And tomorrow they'll be fighting with someone because they were offended. The next day crying because they don't feel like they belong.

So now its wrong for chars to do any kind of action repeatedly? There have been times Ive gone to the lake five days in a row, or damn...I go to work five days straight...better not do that anymore
So what if they do that again and again, it is no different than RL. Not to mention that you just pointed out that the chars are in fact being "consistant" to themselves since you claim that they do it on a daily basis.

Every time I see one of these characters anymore I go into auto-avoid mode.

Oh no!! You wouldnt be talking of breaking the CR now would you?!?! *Gasp*

I feel like these people need shrinks outside of the game. I feel like they're looking for something they can't get in the real world--And I don't mean that in a good way. It's actually very sad to me. I think they need help emotionally and mentally in their real lives.

Pretty brutal statement from someone who hasnt met most of the players behind the chars, but who knows, maybe you are a licensed doc and can make those statements, but I really doubt it.

Oh boy. I knew I was opening a can of worms posting what I was, but I can't help it anymore. It just annoys me and it makes cantr less fun for me. It just does. I'm sorry if it offends people. I feel overwhelmed by those sorts of characters.

Dont apologize, I love debates Even though I sometimes come out of them looking like a total asshole since I go in aggressively. As I said in the last topic, I am not attacking you personally, just your statements. If you think Im coming on too strongly or feel like its an attack on you, say so and I will try and tone it down.

[rconley]

As for time constraints....You can't say that. These people will swim, throw mud, argue, cry, scream, in a single cantr day. The next day is just the same. Every minute--something is posted, but it's nothing new. It's always something I've seen them do yesterday or the day before or twice on wednesday. Either they don't feel loved or needed to take a walk down by the shore and sigh a little. lol And tomorrow they'll be fighting with someone because they were offended. The next day crying because they don't feel like they belong.

And this is so much better than the day after day of dull boring sleepers who get nothing done and do not contribute any to the town itself or rp for days or years at a time at all then complain because it's too noisy. I'll take the same old mud fights, sighers, screamers and cryers over that anyday. If it bothers you that much, it's always a possibility to move your character on.

[Joshuamonkey]

It's like...Jerry springer, for me. Interesting because it's something really nuts....Then a couple shows go by and you realize that all the people on the show are really just trying to be the freakiest. See who can get more beads or see if anyone will notice them because they took their clothes off. It's just ew....to me. It's just not cool to be that screwed up.

Thank you! Things like this are really annoying to me...I really don't want to read about how someone is taking their clothes off.
Good action is very welcome though. I remember back when people in Karnon were still alive and fully able to throw rocks. I miss times like that.

[Voltenion]

*throws a rock at Monkey*

[SekoETC]

People could be subtle about their stuff, there's just the problem that you might have to wait for years before other people notice what's wrong. Sometimes it can be frustrating. One problem with Cantr is that towns are a single point, if you walk down the beach, you still remain in the single spot and people are forced to scroll through what you rp'd there even though they didn't give a damn. Often people forget about the silent ones in the location and forget that they might be active even though they aren't reacting, while you're just having a bit of fun on the beach with friends.

[Zanthos]

the only thing that annoys me is when people put too much pressure on a leader character.

we have lives too, just back off a bit and give us a little breathing room.

[mtm21]

the only thing that annoys me is when people put too much pressure on a leader character.

we have lives too, just back off a bit and give us a little breathing room.

Yeah I agree with you Zanthos!

[CantrFreak]

Whenever (if) that roadmap thing gets implemented we can actually go walk around on the beach if we feel like it.

But I'd rather have something happen other than just sleepers doing nothing all day.

[Sekar]

And this is so much better than the day after day of dull boring sleepers who get nothing done and do not contribute any to the town itself or rp for days or years at a time at all then complain because it's too noisy. I'll take the same old mud fights, sighers, screamers and cryers over that anyday. If it bothers you that much, it's always a possibility to move your character on.

Actually, I prefer sleepers over annoying people. Sleepers are useful for spawning more useful people, and they don't cause any problems. I would have to agree that Cantr's problem is that the entire town is at a single point. Just like the security in cantr is terrible, which is why I don't like incompetent characters, because they are often a security risk. I also don't really see any way to change these problems. So is there really a point to discussing it? Cantr is Cantr. It is a flawed game, but most games are flawed. Cantr especially has many problems that cannot be solved. The result of making Cantr perma-kill is what we see now.

[Tangential]

While you may prefer sleepers, I would definitely pick the annoying ones over the sleepers. Just think a town full of sleepers, doing NOTHING, as opposed to active annoying characters who probably are doing things while being annoying.

Sleepers may contribute to the spawn rates in towns, but so do annoying characters. If these characters live to be annoying, then your town will be guaranteed more newspawns. While sleepers do not guarantee that. Half might eventually die from hunger.

[SekoETC]

Clarify that perma-kill part, do you mean that people are afraid to do anything radical because they might lose their precious characters and never get them back? But old people are like that in real life as well, they stop taking risks and become boring sleepers who do the same routines every week.

[Frits]

Is annoyance a new hidden skill?

[mikki]

*laughs* It should be..

[Sekar]

Clarify that perma-kill part, do you mean that people are afraid to do anything radical because they might lose their precious characters and never get them back? But old people are like that in real life as well, they stop taking risks and become boring sleepers who do the same routines every week.

Sort of. I don't believe all players are as you suggest. I don't like to stereotype(Not to offend), especially considering I am one of those players who has characters who are constantly getting killed for doing radical things, though the great thing about my characters, is that I use them as tools, and try not to waste them. I could go into more detail, but I would rather not let those of you reading peer into my mind too much. It would make my characters boring for you, which so far, I know they are not .

I think those who make annoying characters don't take the game seriously enough to be included in the game. Sometimes, crazy characters are good. But when I first joined the game, I was immature, and created some of my characters a little nuts, or annoying originally. Now, when my characters are crazy, they are crazy for a reason. Whether they are driven mad by a lust for revenge, or by a great passion, it is one that was developed at least a little bit before taking full effect. Those that roleplay disabled individuals, or mentally impaired, should do it well, or not do it at all. There is a character who I found extremely annoying, but I respected that character because it was obvious the player behind him had put much thought into what he wanted to accomplish. That doesn't mean my character respected him, but I certainly did.