Statue made in honor US Soldiers

rklenseth · Postby **rklenseth** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:30 pm

I thought this was touching since I got it off the Official Firefly Forum and thought I should share it with you all...

You can read the article about the statue here...

http://www.conservativetruth.org/article.php?id=2173

The Hunter · Postby **The Hunter** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:34 pm

How about a statue for their victim's aswell? I'd rather see a monument for men, women and children who nevewr stood a chance. :evil:

rklenseth · Postby **rklenseth** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:40 pm

The statue was made by Iraqis.

And second, I'm sure America purposedly killed millions of Iraqis....Oh wait, I'm confusing Americans with Saddam. Sorry, my confusion.

I know Europe is always reporting at how much the Iraqis are trying to resist the American occupiers. Though I have heard and read differently. Many Iraqis are happy that Saddam is gone and feel they have better chance now to live than they ever had under Saddam.

The Hunter · Postby **The Hunter** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:47 pm

America should have stayed out of it...
Weap's of mass destruction, aimed at the US, ready to deploy in a day... My ass...

Wanna do something good? How about getting rid of those dictatorial genocide regimes U've installed... Or even attack those countries that are a REAL threat... The yankee army and it's willingness to invade any country not to their liking makes me sick... :evil:

And you guy's still wonder why 3/4 of the world hates Americans? Well, continue like this, and wait for some more 9-11's...

And really trustworthy:

Wow, what do you mean objective...

As to : made by an iraqi: History is written by the victors...

And please stop posting those militaristic BS here... It make's me sick! :evil:

(yeah, I'm pissd off)

Pirog · Postby **Pirog** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:53 pm

I agree with Hunter.
It is funny when Americans point out the different views between Europeans and Americans about the situation in Iraq and think it is the Europeans that is using propaganda...

It is not we who are involved in the war...open your eyes.

I'm not saying that everything in European media is correct, but we are not in the same situation as you are.
I thought that the Jessica Lynch scam would open a few eyes in America, but instead they turn it into a Hollywood movie, and when it airs no one will even care about the truth anymore.

People in Iraq aren't happy that the Americans are there.
They are glad Saddam is gone, but they want to mind their own business...not silently stand by as America coordinates trade deals with western oil organizations to ensure they get their money back.

rklenseth · Postby **rklenseth** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:54 pm

The Hunter wrote:America should have stayed out of it...
Weap's of mass destruction, aimed at the US, ready to deploy in a day... My ass...

Wanna do something good? How about getting rid of those dictatorial genocide regimes U've installed... Or even attack those countries that are a REAL threat... The yankee army and it's willingness to invade any country not to their liking makes me sick...

And you guy's still wonder why 3/4 of the world hates Americans? Well, continue like this, and wait for some more 9-11's...

And really trustworthy:

Wow, what do you mean objective...

As to : made by an iraqi: History is written by the victors...

And please stop posting those militaristic BS here... It make's me sick!

(yeah, I'm pissd off)

I'll post this 'militaristic BS' on here all that I like. Just because you don't agree with what is being said doesn't mean other people will or do nor does it make your BS (whatever that may be) anymore right than my BS.

First of all there is no such thing as objective or unbias. And I never claimed anything was objective.

Want to know my personal opinion, I believe this article is true and not some made up story.

The Hunter · Postby **The Hunter** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:02 am

Post whatever U like. It's a forum, but you know a lot of ppl will be offended everytime U post that stuff. :evil:

And I know what UR idea's R like... I've seen UR website... And it make's me puke... But, ofcourse, that's just my opinion. :roll:

May your house be bombed by invading Canadians who decided Bush a threat to the world and needs removed from power... Colateral damage right? :evil:

Just a statistic... Sleep well, RKL...

Pirog · Postby **Pirog** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:06 am

What a load of crap that article is...

Making a big point of the Iraqis love for Americans from that sculpture is really sad. Take the example with the art installation in Sweden that made the Israelis scream loud about anti-semitism (I don't know if that story has even been shown in your countries media).
That art installation was made by a jew från Israel.

kroner · Postby **kroner** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:08 am

It's very much beside the point what a few Iraqis think about US occupation. The Iraq war was a mistake/scam. There are many other countries that had much stronger evidence of dangerous weapons. There are many worse threats to the US. There are many worse dictators, some put in power by the US. The choice of Iraq as the target (as well as the choice of going to war at all) was purely politics... very bad, manipulative politics, but it's working very well and may win Bush the reelection. That's because lots of Americans believe this crap from conservative owned media companies, from Bush himself, or from any other source that confirms to them that their country is always right. Well, national pride is nice, but not when it's blinding.

Pirog · Postby **Pirog** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:08 am

Haha...is it good ol' Lenseth behind that name...I should have figured

rklenseth · Postby **rklenseth** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:26 am

The Hunter wrote:Post whatever U like. It's a forum, but you know a lot of ppl will be offended everytime U post that stuff.

And I know what UR idea's R like... I've seen UR website... And it make's me puke... But, ofcourse, that's just my opinion.

May your house be bombed by invading Canadians who decided Bush a threat to the world and needs removed from power... Colateral damage right? Just a statistic... Sleep well, RKL...

I never meant to offend anyone and it was meant for other Americans on this board. I don't see how this is offensive. It was a statue built by an Iraqi in honor of US soldiers and I thought the Americans on this board would like to see it or read the article even though it is by a Conservative group. Just because you believe it is propanganda doesn't make it offensive. It just means you disagree with it because you believe in something different which is alright.

I would like to know where you disagree with me on? My stance that the war on Iraq was right? I think that was really the only politics that I ever spouted on my site. But I can't remember. I haven't actually done anything with the site in forever so I'm not even sure what is on there anymore.

Futhermore, there are prime differences between Saddam and Bush. Bush is an elected representative that can and will eventually be taken out of power. If he does somehow claim a dictatorship then I will be one of the first people to take up arms against him. Saddam is a dictator who has killed millions of his people though most of them (Like the Kurds) he wouldn't claim as his people. I believe in democracy and why should the free world stand by and allow these dictators to do what they want even if it is to their own people? We shouldn't. That is my opinion. People die in war that is as close to an objective and unbias fact that I can give. But is it better to live in slavery?

Anyways, America goes out of its way to not kill innocent civilians but we can't help it if these regimes use human shields or are willing to bomb their own people for their own political agendas. Accidents do happen as well. But like I said, it is better to live in slavery and never have a chance to something better?

And it makes me sick sometimes as to how some people are so willing to appease others (appeasment is just another word for blackmail) in order to survive.

Pirog · Postby **Pirog** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:34 am

kroner>

There are many other countries that had much stronger evidence of dangerous weapons.

Yeah, but the country with the largest amounts of dangerous weapons and that is also run by a religious fundamentalist is the one that you live in. How come you Americans never reflect on the huge amount of weapons yourself own? Why should weapons of mass destruction be prohibited to every country except the ones with the most power?

Not Here...>

Does it bother you even a little bit that those poor kurds were killed by bombs supplied by Americans? That there are pictures of a young Donald Rumsfeld meeting with Saddam, back in the days when the Americans and Saddam were all good pals?
How come you didn't think he was so awful back then?

kroner · Postby **kroner** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:45 am

Pirog wrote:How come you Americans never reflect on the huge amount of weapons yourself own? Why should weapons of mass destruction be prohibited to every country except the ones with the most power?

'Cause the US government trusts itself of course.

I mean obviously the country with the most power isn't going to regulate its own weapons. It can do whatever it wants.
Now, I'm not saying that's right, but that's the way it is.

rklenseth · Postby **rklenseth** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:46 am

Does it bother you even a little bit that those poor kurds where killed by bombs supplied by Americans? That there are pictures of a young Donald Rumsfeld meeting with Saddam, back in the days when the Americans and Saddam were all good pals?
How come you didn't think he was so awful back then?

This was under different leadership and I wasn't even old enough to even know what the hell was happening in the world. But it wasn't the Americans that push the button though we were wrong in supplying Saddam with those weapons but back then when America was more fearful about the Soviet Union and during the Cold War.

America has made mistakes in the past but I can't be blamed for the mistakes of my parents or my ancestors nor should anyone be. I now have the right to vote and to make my choices. Not sure who I'm going to vote for now but I'll figure it out.

Anyhow, the past actions shouldn't keep us from doing the right thing now. But I have the feeling that it will be stopped here and that other dictators will get away with the same things.

rklenseth · Postby **rklenseth** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:48 am

Personally, I think WMDs should be all destroyed no matter who has them.

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